The Healing Process
The healing process is started by sharing your thoughts. Release your pain by sharing your experiences of Lotus Notes with me and the others here using the form below. Constructive criticism is of course encouraged (maybe we can stumble over some good ideas that IBM actually want to adopt?!?), but i know some good old fashion bitchin goes a long way to making me feel better, so feel free. Just keep it clean…..ish. Post your error messages, stories of woe (or successes) both will provide either hope or solace.
Now….. You ready?….. Vent away.
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HEY JOE WATT!!!!!!!!!!!!
Another day of watching my email populate the screen 20 minutes after I type it and then spending another 20 fixing the stupid double consonants it auto populates while I watch my cursor lag around like a retarded dervish…..
I absolutely, completely, wholheartedly LOATHE this POS software. The user interface is soooo poor it’s practically punitive to use. If any Lotus/IBM staff ever reads this please understand, YOUR PRODUCT IS **** AND YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED!!!
That DID feel good =)
C
This F****** Lotus Notes 8.5 give me headhaches. I really love pressing usual shortkey like Ctrl+N to simply get nothing or the Ctrl+Tab to make Notes freezing for 5 min. I just read the IBM’s answer to this issue which is an IBM response: “Work as intended: Ctrl+Tab is not a key shortcut in Windows” F**** bast***s
To borrow a line from an old politician:
If the Notes fanboys will stop lying about us, we will stop telling the truth about them.
Steaming pile of s*** Lotus scrotes. Can’t search worth s***. Edit > Find only searches keyword within the highlighted column. Why? Don’t these idiot developers know that it is far more likely that what the user is looking for lies within the message body? Why not search there? Why do you have to go to View > Search This View to search within message body?
And why does the address book include middle initials while sorting alphabetically? Example, John B Smith will appear before John X Doe. Why? Who the heck remembers people’s middle initials?
AND WHY THE F*** after decades of being a steaming pile of s*** is Notes unable to group together mails with the same subjects while disregarding the prefix “Re:” and “Fw:”??? WHY?!?? What f*****g benefit can ANYONE have if you order all mails with “Re:” together without giving a **** about what the actual subject is? You’re telling me that in the decades that this steaming pile of @#%^ has existed, NO ONE within the requirements/dev team thought about or discovered that grouping messages that begin with “Re:” or “Fw:” does diddly squat? NOT. ONE. PERSON??? Where does IBM recruit its IT people, at the special olympics??? Seriously, everyone…EVERY single person who ever worked on Notes, who contributed in the slightest capacity towards making this steaming pile of s*** what it is can go f*** themselves.
How about we just throw out Notes and use gmail.? It’s safer, works and user friendly….and free….
Step 1: start every day with the following helpful error upon starting Lotus Nuts 8.5.2 FP3: “Overflow [OK]”
You suck.
Right-click on a message in the Inbox — see Reply, Reply all, etc., in the context menu. Ok. Goofy choices, some of them, but okay.
Right-click on a message in Sent Items — no reply anything! WTF?! But I can “copy into new”. Huh? But wait — if I fricking open the fricking message in fricking Sent Items, now it has a fricking button on the fricking top to fricking Reply All. How about fricking Reply Blow Me.
Hmm, I wonder how my calendar looks for the next three months, thinking about a vacation (away from Lotus Nuts). Click the Calendar tab (wait for extended disk churn) in the “workspace” (whatever the hell a workspace is). Okay, I see only this month, so let me just stretch the left-hand pane to the right . . .click and drag, stretching, stretching, still only one month, stretch some more, more, still only one month. stretched from here to eternity, still only one month. Thanks for nothing. Literally, nothing.
I make frequent use of the word “Inbox”, ten times in one email. Spelled exactly the same as shown in the actual Lotus Nuts client, i.e., Inbox. But, ten red squiggly underlines. Sigh. Fine. Right click, add to dictionary. All 10 red squigglies go away. Good. Move the cursor elsewhere. Red squiggly reappears, but only under the one instance of “Inbox” that I right-clicked to Add to Dictionary. Rinse repeat reboot retry regurgitate. Red squiggly. Hey, Dictionary? Why don’t you go right ahead and byte me.
Click Send on a meeting invitation. Check Sent Items for said such sent item. Nothing. Really?
Click Accept on a meeting invite from someone. It goes away from Inbox. Fine. Check Deleted Items. Again with nothing.
Cick Accept with Comments (grr) so I can add a comment to a meeting invite. WTF is that stupid, giant button labeled T? Get the hell out of my way!
Right-click on an invite message in the Inbox. No accept. No decline. No Tentative. Really? Nothing in the Calendar. Next, spend some time I’ll never get back figuring out how to make new invites appear in the calendar as “unprocessed”. Right-click on a new invite from the Calendar view, et voila, Accept, Decline, etc. Right-click on invite in Inbox, no Accept in context menu. Right click on invite in Calendar, Accept appears. Right-click on invite in Inbox, no Accept in context menu. Right click on invite in Calendar, Accept appears. Right-click on invite in Inbox, no Accept in context menu. Right click on invite in Calendar, Accept appears. Right-click on invite in Inbox, no Accept in context menu. Right click on invite in Calendar, Accept appears. Right-click on invite in Inbox, no Accept in context menu. Right click on invite in Calendar, Accept appears. (Yes, the definition of insanity is repeatedly doing the same thing and expecting a different result. If one were to apply simple, adult logic to expectations for UI behavior in Lotus Nuts, one would quickly become insane.) Epic fail.
Want anything other than a plain text auto-signature? Go elsewhere to create an html file, save it, go back to Lotus Nuts and point to that file. Really?
What is so wrong with giving me Tools > Options like the rest of the civilized, sane world? Why must you insist on File > Preferences? Jesus H.
Click Reply All on an email with multiple people. See how Notes helpfully changes the To and Cc fields for you? SMAK. In other words, you have to manually maintain the original To and Cc fields. If I click Reply All on a message I sent, the only one in the To field is ME! I want to make you bleed.
I would rather remove my left testicle with a rusty spoon dipped in rabies than have to support this large **** of alleged software.
GAH! I could go on for way too many hours. But I must go outside and play in traffic. Because that will be less painful and more productive than trying to use this steaming pile of poop known as Lotus Notes.
Lotus Notes… For those times when it’s just not convenient to stab yourself in the chest with a rusty crowbar and then fling yourself into a ditch full of burning sewage.
I am an italian Lotus Notes developer.
Often Lotus Notes crashes, and when crash error appears, I always flag the option “don’t prompt me again…”.
Lotus Notes, however, every time prompts me again
Today’s gem:
Out of office option has disappeared. It’s no where to be found, not in any of the menu options, nowhere in the terribly convoluted and messy preferences menu. I spent 30 minutes (LITERALLY 30 minutes) looking for it. It’s just…gone!
F*** Bloatus Nads! And F*** Ray Ozzie or whatever that *******’s name is who created this sorry pathetic excuse for software.
A colleague took pity on me and showed me where it is. Hidden in a drop down menu under a little piece of **** button titled ‘More’. That’s the ONLY place you’ll find it.
Commencing hammer attack on self nuts…
Try this…
LN 8.5.1
Type some text in an email… select the text, then accidently click on the text highlight button. Now try to remove the highlighting.
I did that accidently and the only way I was able to remove the highlighting was by deleting the text… The undo button did not catch the highlighting action….
Seriously? you can’t make this stuff up.
No, do NOT give your IMEI number to anyone. You need to contact AT&T yourself.
Is it possible to run a rule that applies to messages in the inbox?
I created a new rule, but it only works on messages after I created the rule; IE – I can’t filter my inbox on messages that were already sent to me.
This can’t be right, can it?
You could create an Agent.
You’d like to think that, wouldn’t you? Unfortunately, this capability is only possible with an agent. The fact that Notes does not include this feature is fairly trivial compared to the fact that Notes developers/fanboys cannot even seem to comprehend why one might want such a feature built into the product.
Sadly, it is. And this is the type of post (pointing out an actual, boneheaded attribute of Notes) rarely responded to by some of the defenders who lurk here. My theory is that it’s just too hard to blame it on lack of training or bad admins or…well…anything but Notes, really.
I stopped using lotus notes back in the 90s. If an employer wants me to use it, I just say NO. I refuse to use it. Tough. I have quality of life that I want to maintain and LOTUS NOTES is NOT adding quality to any part of my life.
I wish I had a dime for every time I’ve said “This can’t be right, can it?” about a Slowtus Notes “feature”.
I would rather suck a **** than have to administer lotus notes ever again.
Have you then been sucking ***** then?
Do you suck ****s then?
Cruel but hey:
Chat InformationPlease wait for your IBM Lotus Notes Sales Consultant to respond.
Chat InformationYou are now chatting with ‘Brittany D.’
Brittany D.: Welcome to IBM’s Pre-Sales Chat.
Brittany D.: Before we get started, may I have your full name, telephone and company’s name incase we get disconnected?
you: Just browsing and found a website where legions of Lotus Notes users moan and commiserate about this product they hate. I myself suffered mightily trying to use it many years ago and could not believe it was still around and being marketed. No need for you to respond.
Chat InformationChat session has been terminated by the IBM representative.
So. Much. Win.
I want that on a T-shirt!
You are my new hero.
Just browsing and found this site. Many years after it abused me, I am surprised to find this execrable software still in use and haunting its users. Though I mastered many software apps and several programming languages, I never suffered in IT as much as when I was forced on one job to use this piece of confusing junk. My sympathies to all its users.
I received an updated invite for a recurring meeting. When I accepted it Notes was so kind to let me know I have a conflict for the one that occurred two days ago. Good to know for when I use my time machine.
Another annoyance… My company are looking to streamline operations by centralising our Scrotes Infrastructure for the whole of EMEA to the UK. I’m one of the “lucky” pilot users for this, meaning that rather than connect directly to the server copy of my mail database (which until recently was hosted on a local server in the UAE) I now have to rely on a local replica as connecting directly to a UK Domino Server has proved too slow.
I’ve never liked the idea of local replicas, in the same way that I don’t like Outlook’s Cached Mode – anything that makes mail delivery dependent on a replication process slows down delivery and adds a whole extra layer of stuff that can go wrong… And it seems that for once, Scrotes and I agree on something. It doesn’t like using replicas either.
Despite the fact that I have added ONLY the Local Replica to my workspace, and ensured that all configuration settings point towards the local copy rather than the server, Scrotes keeps arbitrarily switching back to the server copy without warning, meaning that performance slows to a crawl due to sudden network latency.
Fortunately, I have year-round sunshine and a tax-free income to help ease the pain…. ;o)
Use manage replicas. Problem Solved
Why don’t you use managed replicas? Very easy to setup. You then get a local replica which send and receive mail at once, no need to replicate with server.
But you should not blame Notes for your administrators designing a bone-headed solution. The whole idea with Notes is to have distributed servers to avoid what you are describing. But to me it sounds like they just setup one central server for testing, and everyone have to connect to it. They should not have selected someone like you, who is far away and with slow connections, to participate in that testing…
Don’t blame Notes for what your admins do…
Fonts…I just want to change the default font on outgoing emails. Am I asking too much? Easy right? NO and NO. We use release 8.5.1. EIGHT. THERE’S NO WAY to do this in VERSION EIGHT. Think about that for a minute. Version god damned EIGHT.
Please don’t tell me to use Basic Notes Configuration > Default Fonts and then restart Notes. Because that would make you as misguided as the posts online by either Lotus Notes admin people or IBM themselves.
As much as it would *appear* to work, only the UI font changes. The recipient doesn’t get the email in the font of my choosing, UNLESS, I type the email (‘Memo’!), highlight all the text, right click and choose “Text Properties” and change the font there. Only then will my recipient see it as I, the author of said email, intended. So it is possible, but only on a one-by-one, email-by-email basis. ROCKING DESIGN!
I strongly advise IBM to drop further development of this ‘software’ until they get a clue. Perhaps they could look at any one of the many other popular email clients that exhibit some of BASIC, EXPECTED functionality.
I will be buy one of those tshirts and a mug. Thank you for your site, and for helping me to vent. I feel better now.
>Fonts…I just want to change the default font on
>outgoing emails. Am I asking too much?
>Easy right? NO and NO. We use release 8.5.1.
Why are you running on an old version? 8.5.3 have been out for a while, and the default font has been working since 8.5.2.
Yes, I agree that it should have been added long time ago, but don’t complain that a function is missing when you (or your IT department) choose to stay on a version that was released in 2009. It is 2012 now!
The functionality you ask for have been in the product since 2010…
Hi Will,
Ctrl+M – That will create an email.
Click in the message content area.
Type something, Highlight it, format it, then from the “TEXT” menu choose “SET CURRENT FONT AS MAIL DEFAULT”.
Hope this helps.
For some reason my boss thought it would be nice to create a helpdesk database in Lotus :’)
And guess who is the lucky ******* who may administrate it?… ME!
My boss what a dump ****.. sometimes I think he doesn’t have any brains left.. Now I think of it, when I stand close enough to him I can hear the ocean
FIRE your boss ASAP. Put him out of his misery.
Oh dear… comparing just certain mail and calendar features (LN vs. M$ and other products/companies) is so 1999, really.
Wake up – it’s 2012 already! Can’t we just skip that part and b*tch about JVM bugs, cluster replication and database profile document problems etc.? Or Eclipse/Expeditor/client install thingies?
I’ve got like 15 years LN experience under my belt and from what I saw in a well maintained LN environment you won’t get more serious problems than for any other bigger solution. The good thing is, that you can do way more with LN than with any other mail/calendar-only product and don’t have to re-invent the wheel or buy/pay for lot’s of add-on software and services. LN looks different and behaves different compared to M$?? What a surprise: it’s a different product, yay!
However… IF you got your stuff working and do upgrades on servers and end up with errors, that can’t be solved even with opening PMR’s (calls to IBM) for 100+ days I tend to loose patience and faith. I can live with missing some of the must-have FOTM functions and tools, but please make the advertised and (well and not-so-well) documented stuff working already. I mean, I can roll back the upgrade and my stuff works. I install the upgrade and get errors. Guess who’s responsible for the darn errors? Not me!
Hrmpf
Yes, that’s a good question: why do we have to discuss those 1999 features? The answer, sadly, is that Notes’ implementation of them is so poor.
The reality is that most people don’t see Notes’ other functionality; for them, Notes is the groupware/collaboration piece (email, calendaring, contact management), and the other applications that run on top of Notes are not perceived as being part of Notes because they’re usually run from a Web interface. Most people’s complaints, you’ll notice, relate to usability in the client, although some do have issues with the server side.
For my part, I have not had the misfortune to administer a Notes server in many years, nor to run any Notes-based internal application applications, so all I can speak of with authority is the Outlook-a-like functionality, and it authoritatively sucks.
Considering email, internet and lotus are all considered spelling mistakes, no wonder Lotus Notes is a POS – doesn’t know who it is, what it does and where it does it…
And god damn it why on earth have you frozen just because I want to copy some text from internet explorer into an email. Thank god for the ‘kill notes’ app – just doesn’t quite kill Lotus Notes as dead as I’d like it to…
I must be really stupid, why can’t I open an email and press Ctrl+R to reply?
since when is having a ruler so important that you must have that as a Short-Cut Key? Believe it or not, I have a lot more use for a quick reply rather than a ruler.
why do I have to close the email, and then specify the type of reply, why can’t I set up a default type of reply, or even better, you can create the program to have a default reply (the one with history)
you remind me of how Apple released their iphone …. without a camera, they’ve obviously learn’t and now all iphone’s come with a built in camera….. you definitely need a make-over!!!!!!!!
+1 for the default Replay option wit history.
But, why do you just click on Reply button from the opened mail? I don’t have to close it to replay or forward…
I’d take your reasoning even further: since when has having a ruler ever been important in the entire history of electronic mail?
Today a calendar pop-up appeared, reminding me of an upcoming “Reminder”. I clicked “Open”. I got an error box that said something like “Unable to open item. Entry not found in index”. I clicked “OK”. Item opened anyway.
Just another day working with Lotus The Retarded Software.
Ray Ozzie, the guy who brought us Lotus Notes, is at it again once more: http://allthingsd.com/20120105/a-tiny-bit-more-on-ray-ozzies-new-startup-cocomo/
After bringing loads of grief to countless users all over the planet with Lotus Notes, he soon came up with “Groove” (another convoluted and ill-stricken behemoth) which later turned into Microsoft Sharepoint (Now, wont you wonder!?).
Using and hating Notes and longing for Sharepoint? Don’t: it aint worth it. And for what it’s worth: to me Notes is, like for the most of us, a disgraceful POS.
Admitted: Sharepoint can’t beat Notes on that ground, but to say that Sharepoint is a vast improvement over Notes – that surely couldn’t be any farther from the truth than anyone can imagine.
Sharepoint is a terrible,terrible conglomerate of Web- and Office-Technologies, no wonder as it was conceived by Ray Ozzie – well, at least Microsoft (surely not Ray Ozzie) made sure that the error messages Sharepoint generates aren’t as meaningless as with Lotus Notes.
Another favor M$ did the user is that it balanced the grief across the user and the admin (have yourself some fun and ask an admin that used to do Notes how he likes Sharepoint now ).
AS FOR RAY OZZIES NEW VENTURE:
Ray Ozzie states “A new day has dawned as it relates to how we might interact with one another, and a handful of us are just starting work on a new communications product for this new world. We’ve got huge goals, pragmatic plans, and a sense of urgency.”
As the Management-Caste usually religiously buys into sh.. like that and we, the users, at the bottom line are responsible for paying the dues – please consider dropping Ray Ozzie a message to let him know what you think about his future plans.
You might write him a nice eMail like this one:
“Dear Ray Ozzie,
you brought Lotus Notes into this world. By doing that you needlessly inflicted a huge amount of grief and pain on many, many people. We beg you, for God’s sake, please refrain from harming us users once again in such evil ways.
Thank you very much.
Yours truly,
Poor ******* Lotus Notes User
P.S.: Sharepoint aint that much better
P.P.S.: If you can’t spare the world from another app of your’s – please hire me as an interface consultant, I might not be able to tell you what to do in those matters but I sure can tell sh.. if I see it.”
You’ll find a valid eMail-Adress at http://www.cocomo.com, they’re actually looking for job requests but I guess, by applying Ray Ozzies standards, the email above could be considered a job request (the “P.P.S.:”, without doubt will, suffice).
Lotus Notes almost got me in trouble. I invited my manager to a meeting with my team. He accepted the invite on March 30. Today, April 2, I check the Invitee Status in the calendar entry and see “No response” across his name. So I start to doubt myself and wonder if I just imagined seeing his acceptance on March 30. I then start to compose an email to follow up with my manager but decide to check just one more time. Lo and behold… the calendar entry now shows “Accepted” in the Invitee Status tab.
I triple checked everything, and even took a screenshot of when it showed “No response.” I am absolutely certain it is the same calendar entry.
Had I sent the email to my manager it would have put me in trouble (my manager hates appointment mishaps).
I have never had this problem with any other email client before. It is incredible how much stress Lotus Notes adds to my day.
I got one.
Every time I hit the backspace button to correct a typo, the whole line becomes bold print and the cursor moves back 5 spaces until I correct the error.
WTF.
This thing is such junk.
1) If everyone in your firm who uses it is a developer, FANTASTIC. If not, bummer*
2) that’s it – no more good things.
* reference: http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/itanswers/attempting-to-select-all-lotus-notes-messages-and-save-attachments-in-spearate-folder/
One of the worst application developed by human. I have left IBM in just three months because of the lotus notes. One cannot be productive if users lotus notes. Email is very important for the communication.
don’t you just love it when 5 GB of archived mails vanishes
Looks like just a corrupted design. Replace design of your mail file and you should be all set, assuming you did not delete the archive file or moved it…
The opposite of happiness is running Scrotes alongside a popular antivirus platform that rhymes with Shitmantec. Between them, I expect my hard drive to grind itself into oblivion.
Every day this program does stupid things that still bug me after using this POS for 10+ years, today it’s spell check. I have labeled paragraphs a, b, c etc, and spell check thinks it’s an error, even after I add the letters to my dictionary it just keeps flagging it!
My Motto – The people who wrote this POS couldn’t possibly be using it daily or they’d fix it. Lotus Notes, with the email client that’s an after thought at IBM.
Ihatenotes indeed!
Rand
My Moto – The people who worte this POS couldn’t possibly be using it daily or they’d fix it. Lotus Notes, with the email client that’s an after tought at IBM.
Ihatenotes indeed!
Rand
Just got stung again by this one.
Type some text. Type some more text. Indent last text block. Whoops, one too many indents. Press Ctrl+Z to undo last indent. Does not undo indent, removes the last word typed.
Sugar Honey Iced Tea!
So I have this email with an attachment and want to reply to the sender. Lotus offers me three options, one worse than other.
Reply with History Only – what the hell does this mean? History Only? What else should be there?
Reply – this deletes previous mail so the sender has no idea what am I replying to.
Reply with Internet-Style history – just one of bad choices.
And – of course – there is no option to reply with attachment still in its place, Lotus likes to delete.
And then I want to forward a message and Lotus asks me if I want it with attachment. But there’s no attachment in this email. Geez, this piece of software is so stupid.
If it helps, the newer versions have reply with attachments (yes, that should have been there since…oh.. I don’t know.. VERSION ONE!!!!).
And as much as it’s like a nail driven thru my nutsack to do this,I have to say that Reply With History Only makes sense… why send the same attachments all over the place umpteen times?
Email was suppose to be simple. Even with all the added extra for you to search and organize etc.
I could never understand, why such a piece of **** software ever get invented. And it is even ridiculously priced! Worst of all companies BUY IT!
This always happens to me. Maybe someone can help… I use LN 8.5. Many times my list of messages gets stuck at a certain message that isn’t the latest. No matter how long I wait, I can’t seem to scroll down to newer messages unless I delete one of the messages in view or switch to and from another folder (like Sent).
The actual LN application isn’t frozen. I can click on and act on anything else. I just can’t scroll down to view my newer email. Right now for example it is stuck on some email from March 21. I switched to the Sent items folder and back to Inbox, and now I am able to scroll down to some emails from March 23. But it was from hours ago, still not the latest email. Incredibly frustrating.
Thought I was the only one… Here is another workaround to see the latest email. Click to Show Conversations, then change to show individual messages. Sometimes this will allow me to see the new email at the bottom. I have Notes 8.5.2.
Still waiting to hear an explanation (or defense, or whatever) from the Lotus Kook-Aid drinkers on this:
A dialog box pops up reminding me of a recurring meeting starting in 15 minutes. I click “Open”, to open the meeting to see the details. Another dialog box pops up asking WHICH instance of the recurring meeting I want to open.
Now, c’mon, really? YOU (Notes) just reminded me of it, so why would you assume that I wanted to open a DIFFERENT instance? “Thanks, Notes, for reminding me about the 3/22 instance of the meeting. Now I’d like to open the 3/29 instance, please.” Yeah, right.
Lotus Notes is a crape and shame to corporates that use it. The most stupid software I have ever seen. Sick people’s effort brings out sick results..
I have been manageing and administrating LN for years and we had over 15.000 user in our company.
LN was used for database , call centres and bank applications. Oh and for mail.
I have been supporting it for 16 years and although for home use i found it too heavy for the corporate environment it was good and the number of incidents I had to solve over the years it was not worse than the amount of S%^t i got from microsoft product.
I have seen the red bug errormessage of notes only 4 time in 16 years .
So I would like to leave a I DO NOT HATE ANY SOFTWARE only the incompetence of a lot of user and so called it specialists.
You get payed to work with softwar you may not like it but make the best of it and stop bitching of get a life outside IT
Ah.. so the lack of a freakin’ UNDO in Sametime is because I’m incompetent. Gotcha.
Correct ZW0503.
I support LN for a major bank and as usual the biggest mistake sits between the chair and the screen.
Yes. LONO does have some extremely irritating functions and sometimes they can really drive you up the wall, but the simple fact of it all is that it is not a simple email program.
The program is much more intricate that Outlook, Hotmail, Gmail etc together.
It was meant to be like that because of the functionality that was demanded by the companies that bought them.
No program is infallible and none will ever be, but like I said. The problem is between the chair and the screen and if you, for once, would ask yourself the question: “What I did wrong this time?” you will see that, most of the time the program was correct and only acted on a command that you were giving it.
Oh… I also find it humorous that this website has ads promoting LN. I get it that it costs money running this site but maybe ads for antidepressants might generate more clicks.
Hello fellow LN haters. I’ve come to release my frustrations with using one of the worst, error filled, illogical, serial killer creating, piece of sh*t software I have ever click with a mouse. And after reading some of the posts on here, my experiences seem tame.
What’s that Lotus Notes? I have new mail but you aren’t going to show it in my inbox?
What’s that Lotus Notes? You’ve locked my id file?
What’s that Lotus Notes? You need to crash at least once a week?
What’s that Lotus Notes? You don’t want to show pasted screen shots?
What’s that Lotus Notes? You want to take your time and think about the command I just asked you to do?
What’s that Lotus Notes? Even though I deleted an e-mail from Outgoing Mail, you’re still going to show it as sent?
What’s that Lotus Notes? I sent an e-mail from an application but you don’t want to show it in my sent items?
What’s that Lotus Notes? You have a Find command AND a Search command? What’s the difference? Oh wait, Find works (sort of) and Search just produces an error. Helpful.
What’s that Lotus Notes? When I Reply All, this means I want to send it to myself as well?
Deep breath. Serenity now… serenity now.
Serenity now, insanity later…
Click File/Preferences.
Select “Calender and To Do”.
Read “In order to edit Mail, Calendar, or ToDo preferences, click More > Preferences… on your Action Bar in a Mail or Calendar View.”
WTF? Really? They why the hell do you have a Calendar and To Do option under preferences? Why bother providing an option that does nothing? I’ll tell you why. Because you’re too brain-dead to just connect the File menu to the event that opens the dialog I want. “You cahn’t get thahr frum heahr.” No, you surely can’t. Die in a fire.
@Joel, please, don’t take as personal comment, but reading your answers:
The first thing I can say is that every user in the company I work tells: “LOTUS NOTES IS ****”. I will try to explain you why.
a) it’s visible that lotus notes is written on piles of old software, which now for the today’s need are piles of ****. I even ever seen a version of notes which we can distribute sleeping fine nights, expecially Italian versions. Just in evidence, as a medium company (not too much lotus seats), last year we have opened 10 mprs, which 2 of them are ended on sprs, the other are usolvable. Most pmrs were of loss of functions or error on version upgrading; now if lotus crashes or prompts strange errors we have stopped losing time on making IBM calls for pmrs,and we tell users “notes is as you have it”. I kown the “backward If a 2.0 application runs again on 8.5, don’t even interests so much in an nowdays enviroment where users needs are changed and it’s better to migrate applications to new and better supported enviroments.
b) Eclipse is a the last huge **** wich stands on lotus pile of craps. 99% of errors we see are on standard client, sometimes we need to distribute the basic client which is on functionality, of course, is worst than writing emails by hand.
c) please don’t make me laugh telling that the features of outlook are the same of notes, or please give me your telephone number so you can satisfy our users. Want to know the most frustrating users tell us? Please try to copy and paste form a document or web into a new email. 5 minutes of 100% processor, and then as result a ****** notes visual rendering.
Of course elcipse have introduced new interesting function, but we have the problems of a) and b)
d) who writes more NEW and BIG software on lotus script or formula? Not custom apps, we have not a software develop office.
e) where are manuals? and end users italian tutorials? Exchange and sharepoint tutorials are written in italian and you can find them on children’s library, written on recicled paper.
My users hate so much notes, that is’t the new practice try to configure outlook in pop3 smtp by themselves for using outlook. We notice this too late beacuse their mailboxes are empty…
I could write more about other notes problems, I hope this is enough for understanding our pain!!!
Antonio
Yeah.
This hell piece os software was made by the evil himself.
I hate so much this illogical piece of ****ty software tha causes me real physical pain.
God bless the “Domino Mail Outlook Connector”!
I had the misfortune, in my software developer days, to have to make my application call Lotus Notes to automatically send an email. This was in the Windows 2000 days.
For TWO MONTHS I searched through endless Lotus Notes application “notes”, “documentation” (sic), repeated claims that one could easily (sic) do this which led to links to more links and yet more links, yet… the constant change in terminology and the utilization of the help system as a Lotus Notes “feature” (SIC!!!) advertising and marketing system rendered this simple task IMPOSSIBLE. I finally discovered that the piece I wanted to hook into, though advertised as “working” and “fully functional” …. WAS NOT. Not even close.
Lost in a morass of COM “component” nonsense and Microsoft like stygian depths of obscurantist misdirection and disembling (in other words BULLSHIT).
Lotus Notes is the classic example of CORPORATIST BLOATWARE, like Microsoft’s big bag of mostly buggy security hole ridden “operating” system. Endemic to such bloatware are shifting claims, buzzwords, vague talk about futurism and features and the wonderful benefits of using this pathetic piece of ****.
Thank goodness numerous competing applications came along that soon relegated Lotus Notes to the scrapheap along with its pathetic Linux over-hyped cousin “Evolution”.
It is good that people can now openly expose and condemn this pathetic software that is foisted on us by Microsoft wannabe companies (though Lotus has already been bought out and made millions for its creators).
What was the problem? Notes support COM, I can write code in VBA (Word/Excel), VB, Delphi, Visual C or any other language that support COM and send mail through Lotus Notes. Depending on how complicated it should be, the main code would be perhaps 20 lines of code…
A serious look at the
I know IBM employees that wont use Lotus Notes! Lotus Notes suck, it always has and I’m not sure why any company would spend the money for upgrades that dont work and then only to turn around and spend more money for a patch.
Fully indexed replica of a mail file, with index reporting as fully up-to-date.
Search run at 12:30 – 12 emails returned.
Identical search run across the same mailbox at 14:00 – 1,623 emails returned.
Total number of emails in the mailbox has not changed in the mean time.
I wonder what the result will be if I re-run the same search tomorrow?
Good news and bad.
The bad news is I’m being made redundant.
The good news is that it means no more Lotus Notes… Ever!!!
I refuse to work for another company that uses that piece of sh*t. Notes has been the bain of my life for four miserable years, gradually using it’s bizarre, illogical and frankly idiotic style of demotivation to sap me of the will to live.
Well who’s having the last laugh now you ****?
I hate Lotus Notes & Sametime, is incredible that it is no possible to change the size of the fonts… I hate both solutions are buggy and old-fashion…
What version are you using?
Working for a document management industry leader that decided Outlook was too good for the plebes so they gave us (S)Lotus Notes. This software SUCKS RED HOT BALLS!!!! Emails get lost in the Ether, show up three days after they were sent, notifications are horrendous blah blah blah. It never ends. SLOTUS SUCKS!!!! OOPS got an email from Friday last week. Hope it isn’t important.
Having to retype that last sentence because a notes reminder poped up while you were typing!
Having used both Lotus Notes and Outlook in various companies over the years, I can say without doubt that as far as email goes, LN is $#!*. Yes LN has lots of other capabilities besides email, but that’s not the point and is probably why it’s not as good as Outlook, which is designed purely for email. Even when set up well LN is slower, clunky and less intuitive than Outlook. I pity anyone that has to use it for their emails.
Can anyone help me with this please???!!
I reply to emails and press Ctrl+S often during writing an answer.
Sometimes first Ctrl+S forces ‘Send’ command instead of ‘Save’.
I can cancel Send, if any mispelling found and any next Ctr+S works just fine.
I need Ctrl+S to save emails, not to send them…
Is there any solution for this??
I’m using Windows XP.
Thanks in advance!!!!!!!!
Sounds like a bug. I was not able to reproduce it, though. What version of Notes are you running?
No help here, just commiseration. I’ve suspected for a long time that the Notes folks have actually managed to mess up keyboard processing (because, you know, that’s SUCH a cutting edge thing… processing keystrokes).
For more than a year now, I’ve noticed that about 25% of the time, when I copy some text selected in Notes or Sametime (using CTRL-C or right-click/copy or the menu:Edit/Copy feature), the selected text is not copied and I have to go back and do it again. I suspect your issue is another manifestation of the bewilderment the Notes devs apparently face when writing keystroke processing code.
Hey, did you all know that you can also send emails using Lotus Notes!?
No, no that is a known bug – it aint meant to do that.
Did you have noticed that, in Lotus Notes, there is an Undo, but NOT a “Redo/Repeat”? And, that the so-called Undo performs in a tough-to-be-understand way?
So, if you used to press CTRL+Z “often” (for instance, when using MS Office apps), and -say- you’re writing an e-mail in Notes… then, DON’T press CTRL+Z more than once, because you really don’t know which precise part of the text will be swiped away… and there’s no way to bring it back.
Hey man, be thankful Notes has CTRL-Z. Sametime (which they’ve bundled with Notes and is, therefore, fair game on this forum) doesn’t even have that.
Yes, it’s 2012 and there’s an app (from a MAJOR technology company) which manipulates text and accepts user input but DOES NOT HAVE UNDO.
(I’ve mentioned this here before, but the Notes defenders have remained strangely quiet on the subject)
What is the purpose of Save & Delete in domino admin? I’m intrigued why anyone would need such a button.
I’m intrigued why you would have the admin client and not know the answer. I certainly hope you’re not an admin.
As a user, this software makes me want to carve out my own eyes and fill the sockets with the dismembered fingers that attempted to type email on this wretched tool.
The user interface is totally disconnected from reality.
Now, I have it installed on my new Macbook Air.
The contrast between this evil software and the beauty of my Mac is like having someone spell out “Congratulations” in human feces on the smooth white surface of a wedding cake.
Reading through the comments on this site made my day. Thank you
From an admin perspective. Where would you find the admin requests pending administrator approval. Under the server tab then the Analysis tab. Humm that makes sense.
I work at my college’s desktop IT office. Today we got a call in because somebody got mad at their computer, threw a mouse at their monitor, and cracked the screen. When we asked why he was mad he said, “Lotus Notes wouldn’t send my mail so I got frustrated.” His mailbox was full.
Try this in Outlook and you will get the same thing happening! Some people just love to hate Notes and will look for any reason to diss it!
While attempting to insert a signature into an Archived message (which used to work, and why doesn’t Lotus (blows) Notes just do this automatically?) I get the following error dialog:
Type mismatch in method CoerStrToNum: STRING found, SHORT expected
What a piece of ****.
When will be http://www.ihateXpages.org or ihatelotusDesigner.org?,
I need them…!!
Jon,Believe it or not, but I read every word and it all made sense to me. Thank you for sharing “your story”. My husband of 17 years, a US Secret Service agent went into complete cardiac arrest 5 years ago tomorrow, following a 3 mile jog, at work. He did EVERYTHING right, had recently scored “excellent” on every parameter of the physical fitness test and passed his “annual physical”. An AED got his heart rhythms back after 5-8 minutes had passed, but unfortunately he never regained any measurable consciousness. I chose life with a feeding tube intact and cared for him at home for 33 months and 2 days, until another heart attack. He was 41 years old at onset and 44 when he died.He did cardio and weights 4x a week and ran 3 miles daily 6x a week. Bad genetics, maybe. His left main had only a 40% blockage. But, he was under a tremendous amount of stress at work with the SAIC from Hell.God bless you for doing what you do, regardless of the motivation behind it. Keep on keeping our LEOs informed.Kathy
Lotus 8.5. The sametime window can’t be resized freely because of the dividing bar between the two chatters. Did the programmer ever tried to resize his *#£§ing window?
Notes 7 isn’t as bad as Notes 8, or it’s probably the administrators who are to be blamed or given credit!
My Notes 8 is taking 5 minutes to open the mailbox view today! And 5 minutes each for everything else!
FAIL
1. I set up Lotus to forward my emails from work to my personal email…3 years later, I have yet to see 1 forwarded message…what the hell?!?!?!?!
2. If I didn’t archive my messages, are they gone forever? I needed to retrieve an extremely important message from Dec 2011 and for some reason a 4-month period (Sept – Dec) is missing altogether! I wish I could search for a message like Gmail!!! This is ridiculous!
At a guess, your mail administrators have blocked arbitrary email forwarding, but it’s also possible that the rules just aren’t firing.
For the missing emails, I would recommend reindexing your mail database.
Either way, this is probably not the best forum for immediate help due to infrequent updates. I would say to contact your Notes admins for assistance, but there’s a cultural issue in the Notes admin community that seems to involve them hating user interaction.
I hate Lotus Notes. Why is this system still here and why do companies still use this system. It is by far the wrost ever email system ever designed. All i want is outlook.
This is hilarious!
If you create a folder in your mailbox, for instance, name it NOTESsUCKS.
Then rename it to Notessucks ..and Notes will give you an error that says that the folder already exists. You can’t rename just to change the case of the folder…H- I-L-A-R-I-O-U-S (..not)!
There is no technical reason for or against using capitalization. It is only something the user cares about. Therefore Notes does not care about it.
I was going to get mad, but then I saw what you did there.
It’s just the same in Windows. Do you hate it there too?
What version of Windows are you using? You can certainly rename a folder in Windows to change the capitalization without getting this stupid error. I don’t think you get what is being said.
Out of office reply – the defualt date is from when you LAST set it. It can’t possibly believe that you wouldn’t want to set this up in the past. Such happy days the past was.
Started a long time ago a list of things driving me crazy with LN, but I had to stop since it was to time consuming. I do not put up this list here, no worries, but in general I can say that LN is ****. It is not able to do the most easy and logical things like other programs are able. What a wast of time in my live dealing with this ****.
Ahhhhhhhhhh, feels good
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When my team opens a stationary in our shared mailbox and then click send, the mail gets locked on that particular user!
To unlock this the user has to open the stationary and then close it!
Retardness 5000????
Notes starts every email with a newline. Where others would decorate their UI with padding, margins Notes uses newlines and textboxes. In version 7 they actually used textboxes for spacing, you could tell because of the ability to select the newlines, right click to copy and paste that text.
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it a lot more: This is what happens when you have mainframers developing Windows apps.
So I have disabled my alarm to submit my time sheet about a million times now, and what pops up every time I open Lotus Notes…”You missed an alarm” BAH @#$%*&
How the **** is possible that to search lotus notes mail is soooooo slow (even though we are in 2012?).
Why do companies bother using such an obviously inferior product?
Ummm – because we have a huge contract with IBM to supply them with something that must be VERY important!!??!!
Can you confirm that your mail file is actually full text indexed?
If search is slow – it means that the application/mail file is not full text indexed.
The most likely reason is that the administrator doesn’t know what he or she is doing and didn’t properly set up the mail indices for the mail databases when they were created. It isn’t a difficult or time consuming step (a minute’s thought at most), but it has to be done. Searching a Domino mail file (or any other database)should be very fast, if it has an index.
Another possibility is that the administrator also was lazy.
Do administrators of other email apps have to do this?
Hello fellow lotus strugglers,
I’ve been trying to clean out my lotus mail box and still have 25% of usage even though I’ve archived all my emails and the “all documents” section is empty… where the hell are you hidding these emails lotus notes????
The mailbox likely needs to be compacted. Depending on how the mailboxes were set up, there may also be “deletion stubs”, which are used to undelete documents in a Domino database. This and a few other things could cause the size to be off from what you expect. Typically, a server processed called Compact runs at night and handles the cleanup of unused space in mail databases, but this is something the administrator has to set up.
Also, when you say you want to clean out the mailbox (I’m assuming that your goal is to delete every e-mail and calendar entry that you have), you should use the All Documents view. This will ensure that you do get every document. Note that if you select all in this view and delete the records, all mail messages, calendar entries, tasks, etc (in other words, everything) will be deleted. If your goal is to delete all of your mail messages, but leave the others intact, you will have to be more selective in marking the documents in this view before you delete them. That’s not a Domino thing, it’s just a matter of making sure you’re deleting only what you want to. Gmail works the same way.
I’ve been trying to lower my notes mail.
I went to all documents deleted everything, compacted, and the mail still says it’s 97% full. I upgraded the mail template…..nothing works !!!!
Having recently left the company and gone to a place where Google Mail is used, I can say that LN is a bona fide productivity killer. Now I just log into gmail and just start working. 10 seconds. It’s actually pleasurable and makes me happy – a nice start to any work day. LN made me, on a daily basis, get viscerally upset. I will never, ever, ever consider employment with a company that uses LN again.
A user has stationary that dissappears after she uses it to create a new message!! Its like instant mail file clean-up!
I have a fully indexed local replica with all the extras to increase accuracy such as indexing attachments. I am looking for mails with two specific words in them. I get 910 results. I check the first 10 mails for the two words. They do not appear in the mails. What dark magic is this? Is my Notes possessed? Is it confused? I know generally it can spell so why do this?
I ‘ts
B eyond
M e!
I just hate Lotus Notes. ctrl+click-link doesn’t work and WHY is this??????????????????????????? No logical explanation
Click on ‘New Memo’.
120 seconds.
No response.
Aaaaaaaaaaarghh!
Clickclickclickclickclickclickclick
‘The remote server is not a known TCP/IP host’!
*Banging head against wall*
Call your network admin. “Not a known TCP/IP host” means it’s not visible on the network.
Why is this a problem with the Notes software? This is caused by one of two things. If it has NEVER worked, then the administrator didn’t set you up properly to access your mail server. It’s an issue in Outlook as well.
If it just stopped working, there is a network problem. I will agree that 120 seconds is a long time.. it should be 60 seconds by default for a tcp/ip timeout, if memory serves. We always changed that setting in the client to about 15 or 20 seconds when doing client roll-outs in recent years. That is much more than enough time for any network problems to be routed around by the switches/routers and have all of the processing done on both the client and the server.
However, regardless of which is causing the problem, it isn’t Notes problem, it is the cause of the person who set up the client and forgot to put the server address in (or spelled it incorrectly and didn’t test it). Or it is a network latency problem. Notes client timeouts are always one of three things: the two I mentioned or the Mail server is offline for some reason either scheduled or not (presumably your coworkers would also be complaining if this were the case).
Yup – lotus is the same as Outlook and
Gmail except that it sucks and I hate it..
I no longer paste text, unless I copy a letter less in the end because LN complains about RTF characters or something. And this is just the tip of the iceberg.
Open a Sametime IM window (your boss’s, for fun), don’t enter any text or any characters at all…press enter, and see what happens
Press it five more times for added amusement!
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Thanks a giant heaping monkey pant-load on fire, Lotus Notes. I have never seen an app go to “Not Responding” perpetual hour glass mode as often as Notes. I’m sure the developers will say it’s something I’ve done wrong. Maybe so, if doing something wrong is launching the application – then clicking on my inbox. My bad.
If somebody can just tell me how to get rid of the Runtime folder has been closed condition.
Although February 29, known as a leap day in the Gregorian calendar, that is not the situation in Lotus notes.
My follow-up list shuffled the days order so now it is: 28/2 01/03 29/02 02/03.
And that is messed up … in more than one way!!!
E.
Awesome! I was forced to use lotus notes for 10 years at work. What an absolute pain it was. We used all of the replicated databases also. I could never find anything I needed and since I traveled there was always the issue of having it replicated locally or connecting and then timing out. I am happy to say I haven’t used Lotus for a couple years now. Certainly not missing it.
Here’s one and I, seriously don’t know what’s going on –
Sometimes when I open Notes, it shows up that window that’s on top of every other window and after a while of domination, it disappears and then, nothing! NOTHING! BLANK!
I stare at the screen not knowing what next! I invoke the Effing thing again and same as before!
I go to task Manager, kill the notes.exe process running and open it again. NOW, it opens and then the usual hell..
HATE!
I truly truly hate Lotus Notes. Have been using it for more than 1 year now and still don’t get it… The easy things that are possible are not possible in this stupid piece of software…I HATE IT!
So, that feels much better now….
What don’t you get? What isn’t possible? I will make a guess that you came from using Outlook. The features of Outlook and the Notes mail database in the client are almost 100 percent identical, though the interfaces look slightly different (and if you’re using Notes 8 or later, the preview pane can be changed to use the Outlook style).
If you aren’t talking about Outlook, but are using an application, then whatever isn’t possible that should be isn’t the fault of the Notes client. It’s the fault of the person who built the applications. Bad design is bad design on any platform.
Yes true, bad design is bad design anywhere, its’ just (and i left notes behind > 5 years ago after 10 years of pain) that first impressions count. There is no point in releasing software which has 150,000 features in it if you can’t get something fundamentally wrong “out of the box”. Integrators and developers just take one look at it and make an opinion on that basis. Unfortunately, like many software companies (including adobe, especially adobe), they fail to realise that doing the simple things first and getting those right is crucial to reach new markets and prevent their software from becoming legacy applications. I’ve seen it before with WordPerfect vs Word, DataEase vs Sybase etc etc. Essentially the less usable application set eventually becomes phased out as the integration cost increases. Yes, everything CAN be changed, it just takes the willingness to do so.
@Joel, please, don’t take as personal comment, but reading your answers:
The first thing I can say is that every user in the company I work tells: “LOTUS NOTES IS ****”. I will try to explain you why.
a) it’s visible that lotus notes is written on piles of old software, which now for the today’s need are piles of ****. I even ever seen a version of notes which we can distribute sleeping fine nights, expecially Italian versions. Just in evidence, as a medium company (not too much lotus seats), last year we have opened 10 mprs, which 2 of them are ended on sprs, the other are usolvable. Most pmrs were of loss of functions or error on version upgrading; now if lotus crashes or prompts strange errors we have stopped losing time on making IBM calls for pmrs,and we tell users “notes is as you have it”. I kown the “backward If a 2.0 application runs again on 8.5, don’t even interests so much in an nowdays enviroment where users needs are changed and it’s better to migrate applications to new and better supported enviroments.
b) Eclipse is a the last huge **** wich stands on lotus pile of craps. 99% of errors we see are on standard client, sometimes we need to distribute the basic client which is on functionality, of course, is worst than writing emails by hand.
c) please don’t make me laugh telling that the features of outlook are the same of notes, or please give me your telephone number so you can satisfy our users. Want to know the most frustrating users tell us? Please try to copy and paste form a document or web into a new email. 5 minutes of 100% processor, and then as result a ****** notes visual rendering.
Of course elcipse have introduced new interesting function, but we have the problems of a) and b)
d) who writes more NEW and BIG software on lotus script or formula? Not custom apps, we have not a software develop office.
e) where are manuals? and end users italian tutorials? Exchange and sharepoint tutorials are written in italian and you can find them on children’s library, written on recicled paper.
My users hate so much notes, that is’t the new practice try to configure outlook in pop3 smtp by themselves for using outlook. We notice this too late beacuse their mailboxes are empty…
I could write more about other notes problems, I hope this is enough for understanding our pain!!!
Antonio
I once had also employees who could not learn simple stuff within one year. Don’t feel discouraged, there are many people in this forum who also struggle with their intelligence.
Hold on, there are advantages – any time you forget a meeting, you can just look blank and blame Notes – all colleagues will immediately understand…
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This.
Good one.
yep gotta agree, jeez i love browsing blogs
I found the followign on the toolbar.
Actions – Message (Create new message).
Create – Message (create new message)
Create – Other Message (create new message)
Thanks for putting three items on the tool bar for creating a new message. Now how about putting ONE way to create new e-mail rule.
Hurray I got lotus notes 8.5.2. I was so happy. But guess what it sucks, infact more worse than 6
Lets say you’ve opened an email by double clicking it from the Inbox, and then you want to delete it. If you hit the delete key, you’ll get get a popup saying:
“The document cannot be deleted because you currently have the same document open in the Preview Pane. The open document will be closed so it can be deleted from the current view”
Click OK, and the email will close but NOT get deleted.
So…if Notes can automatically close the damn message, why can’t it then just delete it too? (maybe after giving a deletion confirmation message)
The best part is, when you click “OK” to the popup that tells you that you can’t delete the message because it’s open, not only will the email close but remain undeleted….the NEXT email in your inbox will automatically pop open…completely randomly! Why?
Why Notes? You won’t delete a message I no longer want, claiming it’s because the message is currently open. But then you’ll automatically close that message and NOT delete it, AND you’ll automatically open up the next email. WHY? What sense can this schizophrenic behaviour possibly make???
I want to be able to SCROLL in the monthly calendar view. I want to see what is coming up next week or the next two weeks, but I can’t because it’s in a different month. I can’t see more than one month on my screen at a time. You used to be able to do this in the previous version. IT’S DRIVING ME CRAZY!!
Just a minor gripe today: I have a calendar entry for a 9:00 AM event. The event time is listed correctly, but the event shows up in my calendar at midnight. WTF, Notes?
And as a follow-up…
To use said stationery, you do not create a new message and apply it. Or choose “New something” from the Create menu. Nonono. That might make sense!
On the main mailbox view, you pick that “more” pull-down, and choose “New message with Stationery” from it.
Honestly!!
GNNN
How do you create stationery in Lotus notes? Easy! You “save as stationery”.
Where is that menu item? Under File, near “Save”, you say? NO!! It’s in the editing windows “more” pull-down.
You can’t make this stuff up…
hello,
this is horrible, I’ve got a job, i’m french, and there’s lotus note and domino ! Can somebody tell me why when i try to discover the correct path to a file, it’s impossible to see the complete path in, any window of lotus notes ? each time i need make a windows xp search! And i prefer to don’t talk about the fat old school version 7! The links are bizarre, there are tons of hidden weird stuffs… enough !
You’re french AND you have a job? I’m calling BS on this post.