The Healing Process

Notes 5 July 2007 4,017 Comments

The healing process is started by sharing your thoughts. Release your pain by sharing your experiences of Lotus Notes with me and the others here using the form below. Constructive criticism is of course encouraged (maybe we can stumble over some good ideas that IBM actually want to adopt?!?), but i know some good old fashion bitchin goes a long way to making me feel better, so feel free. Just keep it clean…..ish. Post your error messages, stories of woe (or successes)  both will provide either hope or solace.

Now….. You ready?….. Vent away.

4,017 Responses on “The Healing Process”

  1. victim says:

    When you find an ICT solution on internet in a forum about an issue and you want to copy and paste this in an email, then the freaking Lotus will copy for f*cking 5 minutes long the complete fontstyle and webdesign…
    But even worse, in the meanwhile you cant do **** in Lotus or Domino.

    Freaking waste of time.. I’m sitting here, waiting for Lotus to react, spilling years of my life, getting a flat ***. I guess when I’m 40 my inbox image is burned in my eyes. When you look into my eyes you can still read the mails I send yesterday.

    make the hurting stop!

  2. Soundgardener says:

    Oh f**king NOOOOOO!!! Just started a new dream job after being out of work for 6 months, everything is great except they use NOTES!!! I can’t believe it’s 2012 and Notes looks just as awful as it did when I last had to use it in 2004. Good lord. Thank god I’ve moved away from technical support. I missed half of my email today cos I can’t tell what the **** is going on in Notes, and my job is so email heavy. Sigh.

  3. Gearhead says:

    With the inspiration of co worker and this website we came up with the attached image to aid in the healing process. It earned some good laughs amongst my colleagues and I hope it will do the same for you. Keep up the healing process ihatelotusnotes.com and thanks from the boys at RJB.

  4. Iuga Ractor says:

    > DominoDev says:
    > January 20, 2012 at 1:31 pm
    >
    > Try asking your Admin to turn on IMAP if
    > it’s not already turned on and use any
    > email client that supports IMAP

    HAHAHA… that’s a REAL joke. Support doesn’t even respond (anymore, after years) my messages regarding IMAP boxes… it must be as hard to find this “turn IMAP on” config as it is to use this *hi* of mail client…

  5. What the....? says:

    I’d heard of Lotus Notes. Didn’t know much about it. Obviously, not enough about it to refuse a job which requires me to use it!
    After two weeks of battling with this archaic program, and being told that it’s here to stay (WHY????) I’m looking for another job.
    The last straw? I just want to put a link to a file saved on the server in an email. Without creating toolbar icons or typing hundreds of characters. I JUST WANT TO DO IT LIKE I USED TO DO IT IN OUTLOOK!!!!!!!!!!!

  6. Paul says:

    One more reason to hate notes. It keeps causing my MS Excel to crash. Thought it might be Excel (I do a lot of development including VBA), since Excel does have its issues. But it is a notes issue for sure. Closed notes, did some work and saved everything, but left Excel open. Opened notes to check email (never went back to Excel) and within 10 minutes Excel crashes. Tried the same with lots of other programs including some rather large CAD viewing programs and have no problems.

    Notes is so buggy that our IT department has NotesKill.exe in the folder where we go to load new software so they can run it when they have to do anything on your machine.

  7. Angry Employee says:

    To the person who created this website,

    You are a genius.

    Thank you.

    Yours,

    A livid Lotus notes user

  8. Drunk and Bitter Jesus says:

    The worst part about our incipient Exchange migration is that every day with Notes becomes that much more excruciating, knowing how very close we are to freedom.

    FREEDOM!

  9. PPan says:

    I hate Lotus Notes so bad that I could write all day and not be healed. I cannot even begin to comprehend how a company such as IBM can possibly come up with such an abomination and release it to the general public and create so much suffering. Are they bankrupt yet? They must be soon then; there is just no way, no excuse. The company I work for forces Lotus Notes upon me and cause me almost daily struggles and aggravations. I’m thinking about quitting and I absolutely guarantee anyone reading this that at my next interview I will ask them if they use Lotus Notes and that if they say yes I will continue looking!

  10. Gan Ainm says:

    Somebody send me the email address and phone number of one of the fine Notes developers, please. I’m going to just start forwarding near-daily complaints I get about the greyed-out inbox type being hard to read under our attractive fluorescent office lights, and lack of options on colors/backgrounds.

  11. Renato says:

    Lotus Domino is so weird that only the Fringe FBI team can support it.

  12. OutlQQk Addict says:

    Company uses Lotus Notes and I hate t with a passion. Rules don’t even work. It is impossible for me to comprehend what organizations like about LN. I have not talked to one user who likes it even remotely.

  13. carp a diem says:

    On the subject of security.
    In a debate here I was offered a nsf file as proof of Note’s robust security. Actually you can pretty much open up the nsf file in a hex editor and see all kinds of things you shouldn’t: people’s domain (names cn=*** ou=xyz), vb code (wtf?), html, css, xml files w/ java ****, security certificates dating back to at least 1998. Wow

  14. Petetm says:

    I see the pity party is in full swing here. Excellent !!! Please, continue your whining. LOL

  15. carp a diem says:

    On the subject of security.
    First the programmer does this:
    NotesSession.Initialize(password);
    Then the programmer does this:
    NotesDatabase.GetDatabase(Server, DBFilePath, false);
    Also note these are all using interfaces. So first I pass the password, then I select the server hmmmm. It’s an interface so I should use the code which overloaded it. So company xyz provides me a function to pass my password to. hmmmm. If I were to purchase a car, I wouldn’t pay first then make the selection of the car afterward.

  16. world clock says:

    I Hate Lotus Notes – just great!

  17. worldclock says:

    I Hate Lotus Notes – just great!

  18. BLAMM! says:

    Hey Notes, when I’m closing you (a joyous occasion) I don’t want you popping up to show me your blank face. You’re leaving. I don’t need a goodbye. Why don’t you stay in the background when you shut down? Are you that much of an attention ***** that I can’t work in other applications even when you’re exiting? Go the hell away!

  19. LN Hater! says:

    I could go on and on but I’ll just stick with a few that indicate that the creators of Lotus Notes have never actually tried to use it (besides what’s already been covered!)
    1 – When I create a draft email, and close it to work on it later, the DEFAULT option should NOT be to send and save!!! The DEFAULT option should be to save!!! That’s why it is a draft that I am closing and not hitting the send button! The possible outcome of accidentally hitting a save button, and then having to reopen it and send, is FAR less risky than the possible outcome of accidentally hitting the default send and save button! ARGH!
    2 – I once had to email out about 40 people a press release – in Lotus Notes you have to MANUALLY create 40 emails! Well or you have to create code to be able to do a mail merge…which is great because everyone who ever e-mails someone is likely a programmer.
    3 – It is like a whiny puppy!!!! Everytime I’m doing anything it’s like “look at me”, “New MAIL!!!!! NEW MAIL!!!! STOP WHAT YOURE DOING!!!!!” (the popup always overrides everything else no matter what I seem to do). I did mostly get Outlook to work on my computer using the IBM instructions, but LN is so political at my new org that I was worried I would get in trouble for using Outlook.

    Oh also… I’ve only been using Outlook until now and I never in a million years would have believed that I would ever have CRAVED Outlook!!! (It’s not like it’s that great either but….) …. now that I think about it I wonder if LN is a plant by Microsoft just to make people all fall in love with Outlook.

  20. SlimD says:

    I too left a job with many years of using Outlook and Exchange. I often would say aloud my discontent with Exchange. I now say at least once a day “MAN!, I HATE NOTES!!!”
    Today I have a user that is trying to right click and copy a pdf attachment in an email from the copier and paste it into a new email to a customer. When he “pastes” it….he gets the whole stupid email page….not just the attachment.

  21. carp a diem says:

    Back in the days of Outlook / Exchange. It was difficult – no impossible to embed a game of Frogger (a google widget) as a memo signature. Thankfully the good folks at IBM had the foresight so that is no longer an issue. IBM the same folks that brought us the primary key tattoo.

  22. Froggy says:

    I am enjoying reading through these comments while my LotusNotes takes a solid 6 minutes to open

  23. SQL Dave says:

    Gotta love it.

    Notes’ auto-completion of email addresses is a hoot. It works just well enough to make me think that the Notes developers might just have a smart person lurking in their midst, but then…

    Since August, I’ve worked for guy named, oh.. let’s say.. “Shaun G Smith”. Since then, I’ve been able to enter “Shaun,” in the TO: field and when I type the “,” Notes expands it out to “Shaun G Smith/NC/***”. Fine. That’s how it SHOULD work.

    Today, out of the blue, it did not expand it. Instead, it offered me a popup with 2 choices:
    Shaun G Smith/NC/***
    Shawn R Jones/TX/***

    Now, in what universe should “Shaun*” match “Shawn*”? Apparently in Notes’ fantasy world.

    Also, we are a 50,000-plus employees company. We have dozens and dozens of “Shaun” and “Shawn” entries. Why did it decide to show me Shawn R Jones/TX/*** as the only additional name in the popup?

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. They just don’t “get” Windows development.

  24. Smeefa says:

    After a day of random errors with my arch nemesis, Notes, I was going to smash my keyboard and feed it to my laptop but found this after a random search. You heros! Honestly how does IBM sell this junk (why do we buy it)?

    Today, I want to add words to my dictionary. I right click them and add. Notes then capitalises the words so they are not recognised the next time (unless I wanted a capitalised word). How did they screw up that? It worked before version 8.5.****!! And another thing (now I am on a roll), the auto status change for the calender should be renamed the random status change. When it decides to change the status it randomly doesn’t change back. I change it manually then a few mins later there BING! it is deciding I am not available! Next: what is the point of the home page and why is there a ‘never darken my screen again’ button? Have you ever tried to paste text from a website? When you do it gives you the ideal time to go get a coffee because that is about the amount of time it takes….

    I feel better now I know that I am not alone.

  25. Mark says:

    I just can not believe the amount of time i spend putting out calendar events and working on new distro’s in this barbaric email tool. Oh Please tell my IT dept that this is the worst in the world.

  26. Simon says:

    I recently asked our IT guys (our company has over 50k employees) as to why they choose LN as our email client. The answer I got was that it was easy to administer and keep updated than any other email software.

    This is typical IT speak, and confirms that IT choose software based on how easy it is to install and operate, and f%$k all the layman users who think it is the worst POS since Hitler (who also has a special place in Hell) who use it on a daily basis.

    All the IT geeks posting on this website who “love” LN, I bet you do not have girlfriends/wives/kids because if you like LN then no doubt you are virgins because no women/man is going to touch a psycho like you with a 20ft pole unless it has a tazer on the end of it.

    I hope one day that IBM put a wooden stake through the heart of LN, but then I also hope our IT guys will one day get girlfriends/boyfriends.

  27. Sean says:

    I hate that when you copy-paste a table into the Notes email, it turns into a picture file. Then it can’t be copied into a spreadsheet anymore by the recipients. Fail.

  28. acquired by the blue machine.
    Domino/Lotus Notes is a POS architecture for the 21st Century. The people who come here supporting this rubbish, must be 20+ year ibmers or the few developing and selling this horrid excuse for technology. I could do a better job on top of MS Access.

    Seriously – anything branded lotus should be put out to pasture. Horrid stuff, its a terrible reflection of a ‘technology company,’ albeit perhaps it’s a proper one for a 100 year old ‘tech’ company.

  29. Shawn says:

    Today’s gem:

    Got an email today. “XYZ is out of office”. Since I hadn’t sent him any email (sorry, “memo”) today, I was puzzled…until I checked my sent folder. I had CC’d him on an email (sorry, “memo”) 3 days ago.

    I wish I was making this up :/

    Even better, it took me 15 minutes to solve this mystery…because the out of office message had no reference to the sent message. Sorting sent messages by “To” was useless because this person was on the CC line. Even when I took my best guess as to what topic I might have copied this person on, and sorted by ‘Subject’, that was useless because Nads doesn’t group follow up emails on the same topic once they have “Re:” or “FW:” added to the front of the subject text.

  30. Neil says:

    I thought i was alone as well!! Bit like Alcoholics Anonymous.. “My name is Neil and I am a Notes hater”. i feel better already

    After experiencing lotus Notes I will NEVER complain about any Microsoft products again

  31. Jungle Man says:

    What a rediculous waste of your time. Are you so stuck in your ways you can’t move beyond critisiing 1 mail against another?
    Move on!

    • Drunk and Bitter Jesus says:

      Is that more or less “rediculous” (you must be using the Notes spell checker) than making the effort to criticise the people “critisiing” Notes. Also, we’re not all comparing Notes to something else; some of us believe it to suck entirely on its own merits.

  32. Sean says:

    So today I tried copy pasting a link in my mail to a browser (because I hate browsing within Lotus Notes). When I pasted what I thought was the copied link, the entire message of the email appeared on the address bar. Apparently one can’t just “copy” links. Or it can be done, but it is not as simple as right-click-copy. Stupid.

    • ps says:

      Don’t like the Notes browser (which is embedded IE), change the browser to something else. Its in preferences.

    • Shaun says:

      If you don’t like using the embedded IE browser in Notes, can’t you just set your Notes preferences to “Use the browser I have set as the default for this operating system”?

      I use Firefox and it all works fine

  33. BLAMM! says:

    “The remote server is not a known TCP/IP host.”

    Gee, Notes, it was fine all morning. You had no problem with the remote server until now. Perhaps it decided to give up hosting TCP/IP? That must be it. That lazy remote server. It can’t possibly be that you’re a piece of ****. Maybe if we wait, it will decide to start hosting again. Or maybe I should replace you with a tin can and a string. It couldn’t be any less reliable.

  34. LN is definetly only works for a headache, unfortunately I do admin this f… c…, but I’m always talking with the people about the garbage it is.

    I wish I could Admin Exchange :(

  35. Trish says:

    I hate you Lotus Notes. What I hate the most is this new feature I’m adjusting to in 8.5.1 that requires me to go into file and MANUALLY expand an email in order to view or print the whole thing. When I have long email chains, I need to see the whole thing, or print the whole thing – makes sense right. Now I have to take all these extra steps just to read it. What a royal pain – and what am I saving? It’s certainly not any faster than it was before. I hate you Lotus Notes. Since I have to read about 150 emails per day – you have slowed my efficiency. I hate you Lotus Notes – did I already mention that?

    • Shaun says:

      You can’t just use “SHIFT +” when in the email to expand all sections?
      I thought this would be easier than individually opening each section?
      When printing there’s a check box that says “expand sections” if you want the whole email printed.

  36. Kevin says:

    Working with F**k**g Lotus Notes for almost 4 years it is the ONLY POS software that EVER, EVER, F**K**G EVER asked me to reboot my workstation so that it could get its POS head out of its POS A**. Notes is Hell on Earth. WTF was anyone thinking…

  37. Alonso Ortiz says:

    Odio Lotus notes ,es una pedazo de mierda.

  38. Ajay says:

    The best Lotus notes application – killnotes.exe

  39. Ajay says:

    Oh god!! Now I appreciate the concept of AA! getting together and saying “I hate Lotus Notes” is so theraputic…. just knowing that there are others who hate it as much as you is so good! My special of the day is crashes. Crash on reading only specific kinds of e-mails (BTW they are all company e-mails ). Also a benign looking “error deleting child accounts” when Idle is amusing as well.
    I am going to visit this site – often.

  40. BLAMM! says:

    Notes decided to lock up this afternoon. No error. Just completely unresponsive. It wouldn’t even close normally. Had to kill it from the task manager.

    I feel like I’m spamming the site here. Something else to blame on Notes.

  41. IBM Though Lovin' says:

    I have discovered a “feature” in the notes admin client…
    Every time I need to open a dialog to browse a file location, it’s like rolling a dice: will it crash or will it open? You must love this, especially if it crashes I need to reboot my PC before Lotus Notus will even consider opening again. Love it…

  42. IBM Though Lovin' says:

    I have discovered a “feature” in the notes admin client…
    Every time I need to open a dialog to browse a file location, it’s like rolling a dice: will it crash or will it open? You must love this, especially if it crashes I need to reboot my PC before Lotus Notus will even consider opening again. Love it…

  43. IBM Though Lovin' says:

    I have discovered a “feature” in the notes admin client…
    Every time I need to open a dialog to browse a file location, it’s like rolling a dice: will it crash or will it open? You must love this, especially if it crashes I need to reboot my PC before Lotus Notus will even consider opening again. Love it…

  44. Mohit says:

    I’ve had to work the last two weekends away from office – and on both Fridays I’ve had Lotus Notes crash in the evening – so that I’m working and mail-less from Friday through to Monday (if I am able to go back to office on Monday i.e.) or longer. Hate it.

  45. Eugene Gopin says:

    At Lotusphere 2012, IBM announced Lotus Notes and Domino Social Edition, the next feature release of Notes & Domino.Some of the loudest applause during the Lotusphere opening general session came when a key component of this release – the Notes Application Player Plug-in – was demonstrated.

    • ps says:

      That plugin is going to be an interesting addition. It will most likely help in removing the client but probably help in getting more seats of Domino.

    • Drunk and Bitter Jesus says:

      I’ve read this post repeatedly, and all I can get from it is that IBM thinks they can make Notes cool by adding the word “Social.”

  46. Jesse says:

    If Lotus can’t provide a reliable calendar, what’s the point!?! Lotus Notes has many peculiarities that make it impossible to be productive. For example, calendar entries have recently started to disappear from my calendar view, but they are still listed under calendar entries. I have changed nothing. The Lotus Notes help files are unhelpful in resolving this problem. Seems like a very basic problem to be having.

  47. Frederik says:

    whoever invented this f***ing piece of crapware should be fired off to the moon. for a simple internal textmail, it needs 10 minutes to send with some luck, otherwise it’s half an hour… Great for urgent mails (for which i used webmail based hotmail now…)
    yes you read well even hotsnail beats by far this piece of crapware!!! talk about professionalism!!! :D
    not to mention the woo’s of that piece of retarded coding that has no other existence then to score a high redundancy in annoyance: you send a simple mail, don’t do this with all your shemes and plannings opened ready to work with… it closes them all to put you back on the workspace page like if you just opened it… gone is all your opened stuff and yea should i mention you then are not sure IF the mail was sent? sometimes when it feels up to sending it it is sent, sometimes not…
    lotus a crapware wich should have no other reason of existence then to annoy you

  48. carp a diem says:

    Outlook has “Do not send before ”
    Notes has “Expire after ”

    There have been many time where I wanted to write the email now and send later. There has never been a situation where I wanted an email (sorry “Memo”) deleted at the discretion of the sender.

  49. BLAMM! says:

    Doing the morning email thing. Clicked on one of my folders, and… nothing. Wait. Wait.

    “Can’t connect to the server. Do you want me try try another?” Um, yes? That’s your damn job.

    “Nope. Can’t connect to the server. Try again?” Yes!

    “Sory. I haz errer. Goin’ away now.”

  50. Annoyed says:

    Lotus =Loathsome Obscene Terrible Unpleasant Software

    NOTES = Nauseating Odius Tragic Execrable Software

  51. Ullas says:

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  52. Shawn says:

    Piece of **** Bloatus Nads. Always moves the mouse pointer right where the cursor is even if you move it away. Making the already ****** font rendering of Nads even more shittier.

    I ask again, what the F**K makes Nads think it knows better than the user? WHY move the cursor back if the user wants it moved away? WHY make it different than any, no EVERY other word processor? I don’t even want to mention how ****** italicized text looks in Nads. IBM can’t even get WORD PROCESSING correct??? In 2012??!?? After 8+ major releases?!!?!

  53. BLAMM! says:

    I pasted a URL into the address bar and Notes popped up a Search Text dialog box. WTF?!

    • Drunk and Bitter Jesus says:

      This is a “feature” of Notes which I have also encountered. Basically, whenever you receive an email, Notes switches the application focus to the mail inbox away from the message you are editing. Everything changes, including shortcut keys, icons, and probably other stuff, so even though you are still editing an email, you have to wait for Notes to decide to switch back to “edit email” mode before you can do things like paste text, change fonts, etc.

  54. the miles away girl says:

    Thank you for this website! Lotus notes has been forced on us and it is dreadful!! Bring back Outlook – so simple and friendly… Why won’t Lotus list people I’ve emailed before? Why do I have to find them in the Directory every time? Why can’t I move emails where I want when I want, why are they stuck in certain folders? Why does it feel the need to open itself up every time I turn my computer on? Why do people rave about how great it is? It seems to me to be some attempt at an elaborate email system that doesn’t really work very well at all! Ha-rrumphhh!!!!

  55. Scott says:

    Don’t you people realize that Lotus Notes has simply become self aware? The only real problem is that, with it’s found new self awareness in tow, Lotus Notes has just decided to be an *******.

  56. Zdenda says:

    Last time I experienced Notes was back in ’98 when I did some basic IT support for it, I think it was version 4.6. Since then, I was using Outlook, at work with Exchange. And the user experience as well a the administration was better with every version that came out. Now in my new job I am forced to use Notes. Some 8.5.3. One would thing 14 years of development will make the product more user friendly and fix a lot of issues, however I have to say, Notes still sucks big time!!!

    As Curtis Mayfiled would say if he experienced Notes, “if there’s hell, the notes developer are gonna go there.”

    Btw, how much would you say your productivity dropped when switching from Outlook to Notes?

    • Drunk and Bitter Jesus says:

      “Btw, how much would you say your productivity dropped when switching from Outlook to Notes?”

      This is an excellent question and one that’s hard to quantify. What I notice is that there’s a network effect–not only does Notes reduce everyone’s productivity individually, but then people spend more time bitching to one another about Notes, so even their time away from Notes is impacted.

  57. Sneha says:

    Hi,
    I was looking for a comprehensive list of elements within Lotus Notes application that work in notes client but fall over when the application is accessed over the internet a few that I know of @PickList, @Prompt and Hotspots with Lotus script on the form.

    I tried googling for the same, also looked at lotusnotes forums.. but wasnt fruitful.

    Many thanks

  58. Maria says:

    This website has made my day… I am not alone!! I have been forced to use Lotus Notes v6 by my new company, after many years of enjoying Outlook. I absolutely hate it.
    I just miss outlook so much! :(

    • Accrual idiot says:

      Me too, I just simply hate lotus. Camparing to Outlook , Google and lot of other companies that are producing such good looking and handy programs, lotus is trash in front of them. Even then my company is still stuck with this stupid looking app.
      Hate you lotus. I hate it even more because I have no choice.
      Shoot

    • Steve says:

      Notes v6 is 10-year old technology and unsupported. YOu have been dealt a very bad hand. Tell then tey need to get upto date with 8.5.3. Then re-evaluate

    • Pankaj says:

      We sail in the same boat Maria!
      Incidentally, I tried installing Domino Access for Microsoft Outlook (DAMO). This allows you to access email using MS Outlook as an email client. DAMO basically is a connector that connects Outlook to Lotus Server. IBM hasn’t developed it right and there are lots and lots of issues. However, personally to me those issues are acceptable than using Lotus client.

    • Ken says:

      Notes 6 is years old. Why not get your company to upgrade to Notes 8.5?

    • Ken says:

      Oh, and while you’re in Outlook, try setting up a custom repeating meeting!

    • OutlQQk Addict says:

      Upgrade to v8.5 … it is even worse :p

    • ps says:

      Maria, r6 of Notes was released in 2002. I feel so sorry for you. Your life with such lazy administrators must be awful in all regards. Are you using a windows 2000 desktop with ie5?

    • alegr says:

      Steve, Ken, et al:

      Outlook XP released around 2001 worked just fine. Even Outlook 98 was good enough.

  59. BLAMM! says:

    Why does Notes feel it needs to jump into my face after giving me a meeting reminder? Thank you for the reminder. Now stay in the background where I put you so I can keep doing what I was doing!

    • Dale K. says:

      That’s one of 10,000 gripes. When any other program requests immediate attention, once you act you get returned to where you were. Lotus Notes? Oh, no. It has to stick its arrogant, self-important fingers in your eyes. “Eat it, sucka!”

  60. BLAMM! says:

    Today has been an especially trying Notes day. I was contemplating creating an “I Hate Notes” twitter feed, facebook account, or some other such to simply give me an outlet for venting and to document how often it annoys me. Out of curiosity of googled “i hate notes” and found this. Bingo. I am leaving this site open in a browser tab and I look forward to sharing the many times Notes does something stupid.
    So far today:
    – Notes ignored my attempts to delete two emails this morning. Pressed delete three times. Right-click/delete twice. Click and drag to the Trash. That got its attention.
    – Notes decided to go off-line for a couple hours this afternoon. No problems with any other network service. Notes just wouldn’t connect with its server.
    - Two canceled meetings failed to update in the Calendar and insist on giving me reminders for meetings that don’t exist.

    • Ken says:

      Why not get your administrators to set it up properly. I use Notes at work – never a problem.
      And far superior to Outlook!

  61. doc says:

    All my working life I’ve used Outlook. I change jobs and now I’m stuck in hell of Notes.
    Why can you can turn somethings on but you can’t turn them off ?!. Why do I have to wait 5 – 7 seconds every single time I click on an email ?. Why does Notes randomly add categories but won’t allow me to edit the list ?. Why can’t I change something in an appointment / meeting without having to delete it and re-create it ?. When I sync my phone with Notes, why do I have to wait hours or days for changes to appear ?. On that note (no pun intended), why did I have to pay for the software to ‘sync’ my phone ?. (Palm & MS provide sync software free). ‘Easy Sync Pro’ – what an oxymoron – it isn’t easy, it doesn’t “synchronise” and it’s not professional.

    • ToBeNoted says:

      Man, EasySync Pro is sotneold software, no longer developed and out of the cycle. So who on earth did give you that? Traveler ist free for syncing your device, so ask your friendly admin (if you have one …) about getting into our days with their installation. There is no point on bashing a dead horse.

    • ps says:

      Doc, they do have free software that syncs wirelessly. I use it for my iPhone and Android devices. It also works with Palm, windows mobile, symbian. Its called Traveler, its pretty awesome and easy to setup.

      If you are waiting that long for an email something is wrong. Most likely the client is configured incorrectly.

  62. JC says:

    This website is great therapy but updates are too slow, it’s almost as though it ran on domino. It’s a shame but I’m just going to stop checking on the site.

    I wish you all well and I wish Lotus Notes a long, slow, painful death with as much misery and suffering as it has given me all these years.

  63. Shawn says:

    Wow, it’s my lucky F*****g day, isn’t it? Why the Bloatus Nads think it needs to pop up its Sametime/Meeting reminder alerts in front of everything else I’m doing? WHY? Why does clicking OK not make the damn alert go away, instead why does it bring the Nads window to the top? What the #$%@ makes Nads think it’s so important?

    This is typical of Bloatus Nads, it thinkgs its the best software in existence…and the way Lotus fanboys on this site defend this piece of **** just goes to prove it. They think their (and LN’s) s**t doesn’t stink. From the forever lasting splash screen to hogging resources to popping it’s windows ahead of everything else to its cute little quirks like calling an email a “memo” and it’s completely non helpful error messages to the ****** graphic that shows up when you enter your password. F**K Lotus Notes.

  64. Kyle says:

    To anyone who thinks that Lotus Notes needs to be redesigned from scratch… I say NO!! Lotus Notes just needs to be Beaten, Burned and then never even thought of any more!!!

  65. Shawn says:

    Piece of **** Bloatus Nads. When auto inserting contacts into the address bar, sometimes it will add a comma after insertion (which it should, so that you can start typing the next contact’s name), and sometimes it won’t, completely randomly.

  66. Kyle says:

    All I did was google search “Lotus Notes Sucks” and I found this page!… This is my new home page… But, all I have to say right now is: 26% of people voted that they “LOVE” Lotus Nuts!!!! ARE KIDDING ME!!! I would rather write email in Morse Code!!!
    And I can say this… There is MOST DEFINITELY no other program like Lotus Nuts out there……. And thats because nobody is stupid enough to actually publish something so ridiculous!!!
    …. I would just like to take the time to say something I’ve been wanting other people to hear for some time now………………… UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!

  67. Pankaj says:

    I thought Domino Access for Outlook (DAMO) was the good alternative as an email client.

    I have somehow managed to get the DAMO installer (getting it from IBM’s site is difficult) and installed it on the following platform:

    Win 7 Prof (64 bit)
    Outlook 2010 (32 bit)

    The installation is partially successful. To elaborate:

    - The following works without any issue:
    (a) Sending and receiving emails
    (b) Creating folders
    This means the above action in Outlook synchronise back with the Lotus server and these emails or folders can be seen in Lotus client or Web Mail.

    - The following are the major issues:
    (a) Marking an email as read or unread
    (b) Moving an email from one folder to another
    These actions in Outlook do NOT synchronise properly with Lotus server, which means you do not see an email marked as read or unread (as the case may be) or in the folder to which it is moved.

    Does anyone have idea or solution to the above. I am desparate.

    • DominoDev says:

      Try asking your Admin to turn on IMAP if it’s not already turned on and use any email client that supports IMAP

    • Drunk and Bitter Jesus says:

      DAMO offers one-way sync to the Outlook client; it does not sync back to the Notes server. As mentioned, you can use IMAP for email-only sync, but if you want two-way sync with Outlook for your calendar, etc., there’s no way.

      In the twisted logic of the Notes fanboy, this behavior is because Notes is more open than, e.g., Exchange.

  68. pedro says:

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  69. Shubham says:

    Every time I hibernate my PC and then resume it, My lotes notes hangs, the task bar shows its prompting for password but where the hell is Password window…??

    I HATE LOTES NOTES

    • Drunk and Bitter Jesus says:

      The password window is probably behind the main window. You may be able to Alt-Tab to it or minimize the main Notes window. Or not. If not, I recommend closing Notes before you put your computer to sleep.

  70. Shawn says:

    So you want to move a calendar item to a different time slot. You right click the item and select ‘Cut’. Then you go to the new timeslot and right click and … there is no ‘Paste’ option.

    Why? Yes, I know how Ctrl-V works, but why have cut, and not paste in the same menu? How is this anything less than poor, lazy design? Not to mention as I’ve previously pointed out, moving an appointment doesn’t move your reminder. WHY? What’s your explanation, LN fanboys?

    • sri_barence says:

      You are doing it wrong! Haven’t you been trained on Lotus Notes? You cannot simply cut & paste or drag’n'drop meetings, and expect that to work. You have to do it the slow, non-intuitive Lotus Notes way. You know, like back in the 1990s. Lotus Notez is sooper softwarez. No cheezburger for you.

      • Sri_barence says:

        I was just joking when I wrote that reply, but I just tried creating and then moving a meeting, and guess what? I was right!! Hee hee.

    • Steve says:

      I find a simple drag and drop always does the trick for me. Or if I need to move something to the other end of the year or summit I just use the Edit button and punch in the new dates and then save

  71. Noname :) says:

    I am an employee at Continental Automotive. For some time now we are using Lotus Notes as our email client (to the total disgust of all employees). Besides the countless times I encountered bugs in the tool, just yesterday we were told to update our profiles in the corporate phone book using Lotus Notes.

    When I tried to log in to the corporate phone book page, I got an error message that the user name and/or password were wrong. I told our support desk about this. Later on I got an email saying that, in order to solve the problem, I had to log in and update my profile.

    It seems that the Lotus Notes bugs are not contagious also for human beings working for support of the tool. Beware :)

  72. Noname :) says:

    I am an employee at Continental Automotive. For some time now we are using Lotus Notes as our email client (to the total disgust of all employees). Besides the countless times I encountered bugs in the tool, just yesterday we were told to update our profiles in the corporate phone book using Lotus Notes.

    When I tried to log in I got an error message that the user name and/or password were wrong. I told our support desk about this. Later on I got an email saying that, in order to solve the problem, I had to log in and update my profile.

    It seems that the Lotus Notes bugs are not contagious also for human beings working for support of the tool. Beware :)

  73. Supply says:

    Auch wir in der Schweiz hassen Lotus Notes über alles! Jeder der auch nur ein bisschen Ahnung von Technik hat, weis wovon ich rede!

  74. Elsie says:

    I really want to take your survey, but I need additional alternative options beyond Outlook, Thunderbird, and Mail to fully express myself. Tin-can-and-string, semaphore, and morse code with a shiny, jagged piece of glass should all be added as choices preferable to the system my employer uses – Lotus Notes 5.0.8.

    • Jay says:

      I’m not a LN fan boy by any stretch – but you know that v 5 of LN is like 12 years old, right?

    • Steve says:

      Oh dear! That version of Notes is 15-year old technology. You too have been dealt a bad hand by your employer. No wonder you hate Notes. I bet you would hate using a 15-year old version of Outlook, if there was such a thing.

    • ps says:

      Lotus Notes 5? Wow, I think you win for laziest administrators. Please pick up your prize. r5 is from 1999, so sorry.

  75. Dave says:

    The only people who use this POS product are idiots that know absolutely nothing about Email servers/clients or those who have inherited this legacy trash and haven’t gotten rid of it yet.

    I have found the following recent bugs with the latest version of a fully patched Lotus Notes client and Win 7×64:
    - Copy and Paste works incorrectly
    - Menu bar buttons and images are not visible to send, forward, etc email
    - You need to enter your password roughly 3-4 times just to get to the place to change your password.
    - Notes often hangs on the splash screen, only a reboot or killing all the sub processes allows you to relaunch it.
    - etc. etc.

    When I called enterprise support they stated these are known issues and the resolution is to upgrade to client version 8.6.x (which is not out yet).

    Even though I am an Ashiest, I almost hope I am wrong, that way I know the lotus dev’s who make and maintain this application will have a special place in Hell.

  76. JC says:

    Ah Lotus Notes, how can thee crash? Let me count the ways:

    Open a mail [crash], reply to a mail [crash], open the calendar [crash]

    But the sweetest of these by far is:

    stand idle in the background for 5 f**king minutes until you sense the need for an important mail then [crash and burn]

    Sweet agony

  77. Shawn says:

    More Bloatus Nads bullcrap. We all know that you cannot forward meeting invites to others, you have to pester the organizer to do it (and God help the poor ******* to update the invitees on a previously scheduled invite).

    Here’s another one. Say the organizer of a meeting makes changes to an invite and sends out an update. You see the update, but there’s no ‘Accept’ button on it since you had already accepted the invite…it’s just that the info was updated (i.e. the content). Well and good. So when it’s time to join the meeting, you double click the invite and Bloatus Nads will excitedly show off how helpful/awesome it is by informing you that the original invite has been updated (umm, yea I knew that). It will then ask you if you want Nads to “automatically process the updates for you” (automatically? wow, Nads is so clever and advanced! does the user even need to be bothered by asking such an obvious question?) So you click “Yes” and what happens? Nothing! You see, Nads just finished “automatically” processing the update for you. You want the updated invite to actually open up too? Well, double click the invite again, dumbass user! How the heck can Nads guess that when I double clicked the original invite, I actually wanted to open it so that I could get on with my meeting? It’s true what all the Nads fanboys have been saying all along…it ain’t Nads, it’s the users’ fault.
    /sarcasm

  78. Petetm says:

    From MS
    “Microsoft has updated its Microsoft Exchange Server 2010, posting a service pack with a number of new features and bug fixes, the company announced Monday. …
    The new service pack will require organizations to update their Active Directory schemas, which the company has admitted, can be a time-consuming process.”

    So even with a simple service pack you STILL have to rip and replace !?!?! Nice one MS.

    • Drunk and Bitter Jesus says:

      I doubt I have to tell you, Pete, that your post is off-topic.

      Also, an AD schema update is not rip-and-replace, although it can be time-consuming.

  79. maxima128 says:

    Why doesn’t LN 8.0 allow me to open databases (e.g. mail file, calendar, address book, and other databases) in separate windows? LN lets me do this with individual messages and documents. So why are databases limited to tabs in the darn main window?

    • DominoDev says:

      I don’t know why yours wont, but all I have to do is right click on the database icon and select open in new window

      • Sri_barence says:

        I don’t have that option either. I can open an email in a new window, but not a database or application. Maybe there is a user or admin setting to make this possible?

    • Steve says:

      Again, another Notes client setting set away from the defaults.See screenshot where you can correct this:

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  81. DominoDev says:

    I have Changed my Screen name to DominoDev because there are at least 2 Steve’s that are Notes Fan Boys and Hopefully this name change will clear up any confusion…

    As always if you are having issues with Notes feel free to drop me an email and I’ll be happy to try and help you address the issue. I will try to reply as soon as I can but please remember I do have a real job too. If I get a lot of bogus emails I will just cut off the email address.

    sdp1793-noteshelp at yahoo

  82. michal says:

    I don’t understand why scrolling down the message works normally, but scrolling up is much slower and not smooth at all. In this message I have opened right now it takes 8 wheel scrolls to get down but 19 to get up again.

    • kam says:

      Does this happen to you? When I open an email and I move the window (since often Notes sucks at positioning it correctly) then the vertical scroll bar does not work until I resize the window. The scroll bar resizes even if I only widen the window, then it works.
      The scroll bars do not work correctly because they are there for the users, not to make the admins lives easier. Therefore whether they work or not does not matter to Notes.

  83. michal says:

    1. I’m used to highlight word by double-clicking on them. It works in every application I’m using, except of LN, of course. Only LN opens a new message / reply when I double-click in the original mail. Stupid.

    2. I don’t like the fact that I can’t make a folder under my inbox. All folders are placed in “Folders” which might seem logical but doesn’t help to keep my messages in order I’d like them to be organized.

    3. Folders again. I hate it when a folder with sub-folders collapses when I click on it. There is that + / – sign on the left, so why clicking on folder makes the same?

    • Victor says:

      Hahahaha
      The number 1. is the stupidest!!!
      Ever!

      Is there a workaround? Maybe change some policies in Domino Admin?

      Hugs to all sufferers

    • swallow says:

      For the inbox subfolder, I made a rule to move everything to an Inbox Folder under the Folder (named –INBOX to stay at the top). Saves me scrolling that window all the time…

  84. michal says:

    Signature. I made my signature as an html file and used LN option to load it automatically for every message. Everything seemed to be fine but all of a sudden, LN started to insert my signature in way too bigger font then the rest of email was typed with. I tried to make a new html, edit the first one but to no avail. And I’m not the only one in our office with this problem. I just switched to plain text, but that’s not an answer to why LN changes things on its own will.

  85. dom says:

    When upgrading a person’s workstation (New PC) how do I move all the replicas to the new PC ?

    I don;t want to have to create the replica one by one

    • sri_barence says:

      I think you can [manually] copy the .nsf files from the old machine to the new one. You’ll still have to configure the new Lotus Notes installation to point to the old files. Naturally this will be a manual, slow process. I have seen instructions on doing this on Google. I do know that this method works, because my company’s IT serfs did it right when they replaced my PC with a laptop. Off-topic: I totally recommemd the Lenovo T-420 for a work machine.

  86. help says:

    this was a prodigious part cheers for the help.

  87. Sour Grapes says:

    Just when I think my boyfriend can’t get any lazier…my Notes gets hung up before the program can even open.

    I’s rather clean my boyfriend’s dirty underwear.

  88. Matt Demon says:

    I am trying to install Lotus Notes at my Nokia e63 (symbian 60 OS)… its asking any server .. Dont know which server is askig this.. can you guys help.?

  89. synfluent says:

    I don’t really want to come off sounding too bitter about Notes.

    Disappointed? Yes. Bitter, not really.

    My history with the product dates back to dev work on the original OS/2 version at a time when, believe it or not, Lotus Dev Corp was larger in sales revenue than MSFT.

    In beta, companies stepped up plunked down the $62k admission fee and were excited by possibilities for secure, global document sharing and collaboration. The very idea of syncing servers around the globe with the same content (we didn’t use that word then, either) was intoxicating.

    For a frame of reference to that time, most of my clients were WordPerfect users and ran either Lotus 1-2-3 v 2.2 or Borland Quattro. Electronic mail existed only at the largest, mainframe shops and graphics layout on Ventura Publisher was quite a feat of skill!

    And there was no internet or world wide web for most of us, either.

    Lotus Notes was incredibly exciting but the luster came off immediately when Mozilla/Netscape brought ad hoc collaborative capabilities, without the $62k price tag.

    The next body blow came with MSFT’s bundling of Word/Excel/PowerPoint for Windows at a price point which was less than one license for the character-based Lotus 1-2-3. It was over. We just never recovered from that.

    The marketshare slide at LDC became precipitous with no Windows version of 1-2-3 anywhere near release and suddenly it was up to Notes to save the company- and, that didn’t happen. LDC never expected to compete with a tools vendor turned applications vendor and an ad hoc global network available to anyone with a computer.

    Given it’s original scope and when considered in the context of it’s time, Notes was incredibly good and incredibly secure.

    But, in the end, robustness and capability could never overcome the capabilities of the internet. And that is why I say that Notes has no real reason to exist.

  90. dave says:

    Lotus Notes has way too much baggage – needs to be re-written from scratch. Novell Groupwise was way ahead of its time – too bad Novell died. I had 70 users on a low end computer that acted as server for over 3 years on Groupwise.

    • Crabs&Cancer says:

      Novell hasn’t died. Groupwise 2012 is out which is seemingly also trying to play catch-up to what the Outlook/front-end offers end-users.

    • carp a diem says:

      I was searching through the decompiled Notes code searching for how many times the string “password” comes up. And found something interesting. The Lotus Note 1-2-3 icon is in there. The Win 3 icon is in Notes 8.

  91. Shawn says:

    Since Bloatus Nads fanboys always seem to have excuses for all of it’s crappy shortcoming, perhaps they will indulge me:

    1) Every few days, Sametime prompts me to re-enter my password. Every time, I make sure that I check the ‘Save Password’ checkbox. Yet, like clockwork, a few days later I get the password prompt again. Why?

    2) Say you schedule a meeting or an appointment and check the ‘Notify Me’ box to set up a reminder. If you happen to move the meeting to a different time, the reminder will still go off before the original appointment. Why?

    • Steve Jobs says:

      Lotus Notes sucks. face it

    • BillS says:

      Shawn,
      To set the scene, I’m not a Notes fanboy & I prefer Google mail & calendar. In answer to your first question, your Notes configuration may be updated by the Dominos Mail Server & could be a company setting that your IT dept. has set. For me, Sametime does not continue to prompt. On the other hand our IT dept. will not allows us to save passwords for the VPN connection, which really does make sense. If the computer is stolen or infiltrated, the criminal could not get into my company’s network. Anyway, talk to your IT staff as they may be able to help with the Sametime password issue. And Good Luck!

  92. SQL Dave says:

    If there’s a level of Hell reserved for Lotus developers (I mean the employees of Lotus who actually write/maintain it), then there must be TWO levels reserved for the Sametime developers (assuming they’re different groups). I’ve already chronicled some of the facepalm-worthy things here (like no “undo”… a concept apparently way too complex for them to figure out). But now I’ve hit another one, which is the topic of today’s rant.

    2 days ago I needed to send a message to “John Smith” as soon as he came online. I did a search and in the search results right-clicked on Alert Me When Available. Later that day, it did indeed alert me when Mr. Smith came online.

    So far, so good.

    However, it has now alerted me EVERY SINGLE TIME he comes online. When I right-click on his name, there is no “Stop Alerting Me” option. There is “Alert Me When…”, which opens a small screen of “Current Alerts”, from which I can add/edit/remove alerts. There are NO current alerts to remove. So, am I doomed to get alerts on Mr. Smith for the rest of my life?

    I’d love for someone to tell me I’m missing a simple, intuitive button or menu option or something… but I’m not holding my breath.

    • SQL Dave says:

      Additional: In the pop-up which alerts me to Mr. Smith having come online, there is a checkbox labeled “Alert me again”. You’d figure that leaving that unchecked would prevent future alerts, right? If so, then you clearly haven’t used Notes/Sametime for long.

    • hard luck says:

      You need to right click on Mr Smith’s name in Sametime and select ‘Remove Alerts’

      • hard luck says:

        Sorry I didn’t read your question properly.
        This sounds like something is stuck.
        Have you tried creating another ‘alert me when available’ and removing it ?

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