I Hate Lotus Notes

And i have to work with it every bloody day…

1. admin 07.05.07 / 2pm

   Ahhhhhhggggg!! It hurts to look at it!
2. Ray Moro 07.17.07 / 10am

   I’m so relieved to find I don’t suffer alone!

   Lotus notes is a lot like Nascar… It’s really lame, and it’s fans are a bunch of drooling idiots.

   Thanks!
3. Anna 08.04.07 / 10am

   “Arrggghhh!” I shout to the foul white screen as Lotus Notes sucks away all my computer’s resources! Fie to the fugly calendars! Why can’t I copy and past all that I need to? What is wrong with my filters, my precious filters that functioned without flaw in Outlook and Thunderbird?!

   A pox on your Domino server!!
4. I want spam 08.22.07 / 12pm

   You know why the wind blows through IBM Corporate HQ?

   Because Lotus Notes SUCKS so much!

   Send email to another employee that is out of the office and get the AUTO REPLY two HOURS later. What a sweet piece of software.
5. LotusNo! 08.23.07 / 10am

   Lotus Notes has that super-modern-Windows3.1-look interface that makes me wanna smile everyday.

   If only there were more cliparts to make me happier…
6. Jacko Pearson 08.28.07 / 1pm

   Notes is utter garbage. It took them until release 6.5.4 to add a simple Icon to see if you have replied to a users message. There is no rhyme or reason to which fields you can copy and paste from, they have left in a notes browser that no body uses. The calendaring option is just horrible and almost useless. The notes application is one of the most non-intuitive software packages ever developed. The fact that you have to have a developer on-site to build in functionality is joke. I HATE THIS APPLICATION!
7. Islander 09.05.07 / 1am

   Aaaarrggh! I have just changed companies and the new company works with Lotus Notes 5. I feel like ending it all. My productivity has decreased by 90% as I p..s about trying to do even simple things. I can’t customise it, I can’t do anything with it. I simply hate it, hate it, hate it. My will to live is decreasing by the minute and I am already thinking about changing jobs. OH Lord, what have I done to deserve this!!!!
8. Sam 09.19.07 / 2pm

   Thanks to Notes i have a meeting at -1 o’clock tomorrow. Also, why do url’s have to blink!
9. Poor little technophobes can't handle a different metaphor 09.24.07 / 10pm

   And this is the ninth comment. … and you said Notes is lame? Get a life!

   If you are using R5 then I pity you, you are using ten year old software … as bad as using ten year old exchange.

   If you are using 6.5.4 then it is only two major releases behind. Face it, it is not Notes that is brain dead it is your software administrators.

   And by the way Notes is NOT mail. It is an application development platform. If you are using it for nothing more than mail, then congratulations, you get the award for using the most expensive mail client in the universe.
10. David 10.03.07 / 12pm

    One of many reasons why I HATE LOTUS NOTES:

    You receive an email from someone you trust, which is copied to a third party, which you know by reference only, and you know that the sender of the email trusts (for example, this third party works in a remote location of your company). You want to reply with additional, confidential information, but Lotus can’t figure out what the email address of the third party is, not because it doesn’t have it in the email it self, but because there are similar names in your companies address book! That’s about as brain dead as you can get. Obviously, you have to omit the third party because you 1) aren’t really sure where he works, and 2) you’re not really sure of his name as reported in the Lotus email directory.

    Way to go Lotus. Make’n it easy for the user to do his work.

    “It’s a lotus product. I can’t tell you for sure if it worked or not.”
11. Ola 10.12.07 / 4am

    Ctrl + Break - is the help when the shit freezes time after time
12. Gaurav 10.25.07 / 3am

    i also agrees with you all guys..
    its the slowest piece of code and taks large ammount of processor share..
13. Ericka 10.31.07 / 3pm

    as a designer, not only am I unhappy because they won’t let me use a mac, I HATE lotus notes. It is the most un-intuitive piece of crap software I have ever used….not to mention I have no idea what I’m doing because my company never trained me….2 years here and I’m still stumbling around on Lotus notes…thats how bad it is!!!
14. Tony 11.07.07 / 10am

    aaaaaargh! Its just crashed again with a garbage error message about lookup handles. The address book is a nightmare to keep up to date, so most people seem to give up on it. Email cannot read or send HTML. It does not use your hard disk for email storage so it eats up server space so IBM can sell you a larger one. Nothing is intuitive and i end up using my blackberry while notes takes 5 minutes to open. Agree with everything said above!
15. Rachelm920 11.14.07 / 2pm

    Some Things I hate about Lotus Notes
    1. The Calendar SUCKS! I went from using Microsoft Outlook to this P.O.S. a few years back and I couldn’t use the “tasks” anymore which I used religiously in outlook. Now I am constantly forgetting my “tasks”.
    2. It goes down all the time!!!!!!
    3.The stationery area cannot be sorted by the stationery name. I use this a lot it helps me remember my tasks (see #1). Therefore whenever I create a new stationery I have to re-create them all, or it will show up in the wrong place, (I title them “Monday Report A” etc.) and once again I will forget my “tasks”.
    4.I HATE THE STUPID SPLASH SCREEN!!!!! It takes forever for it to load, and the splash screen stays on top of every other program you have on your PC. I’ve tried to disable it, but unlike every other software you cannot!
    Obviously the developers weren’t thinking of users when they implemented this software. I am an Information Tech. student, and one of the major things that is emphasized in creating software, databases etc. is to get a users opinion before releasing it!!!!OMG I wish my company would just go back to outlook, or even develop their own software. That would be even better!!!!
16. Jerry 11.16.07 / 8am

    *sigh* Just so many poor design decisions. (Maybe the product name should be “Lotus ‘What were they thinking?!’ Notes”.)

    Miscellany:
    1) I’m a fairly bright guy, but the changing displays/toolbars/menus/menu items, varying with views has me unsure of where to find any preferences or options anytime I want to view or change them.
    2) Right now I’m working withToolbar Preferences. I see five toolbars, but the “Available Toolbars” shows four toolbars as “Visible”.
    3) Looking for help: The help topic “Toolbars : Hiding and Displaying” has an entry for “To make additional toolbars visible”. You might expect a correspoinding entry like “To hide toolbars” … but yuo’d be wrong.

    Shouldn’t they test this on animals or something before inflicting it on the workplace?
17. Ian 11.29.07 / 6am

    I have just disabled my out of office and while the process completes I have fifteen to 30 minutes to let you all know how much I hate Lotus Notes:
    1) Lotus Notes just crashed when I clicked “disable out of office”- Now when I try to start it it gives me the message “an error was encountered”. So I have to shut down the PC.
    2) I upgraded to 7.02 and now every time I shut down the computer I have to reinitialize the settings. IT Support is lost as to why this is happening. They keep deleting the contents of the ini file. All works fine until I reboot the computer.
    3) The web application continually tells me that I cannot send an email at this time. I can read email, I can prepare a response but hit send and the thing chokes. Give me simplicity instead of this rediculous system.
    4) Their mail search system is illogical, impractical and slow.
    5) Let me manage my own document retention
    6) I don’t care if this is a “Development Platform”. My company uses this platform as an email server and that email server sucks.
18. Mark-V 12.06.07 / 5pm

    Have to join the LOTUS NOTES HATERS’ CLUB! This company (rockwell collins) doesn’t seem to use the NOTES part of it (which was useful in a past job), so we have to live with the bunged up Calendar, Tasks, Email & Slowest-Contacts-List-To-Search-In-The-World. IBM must have used a 6th graders search algorithm? What is that? All the preceding applications are so non-functional it’s pathetic; rules set up stop working. Repeating calendar events? Good luck when modifying them for a group of people - half will disappear. Tasks? Fuhgedaboudit.. When we do a File->Exit, Notes won’t even quit half the time, it hangs the PC at 100% duty cycle so has to be aborted to kick it off! YUCK! WHAT IS THAT?? I CAN”T TAKE THIS MUCH LONGER!!!

    I’VE CUT UP MY MICROSOFT HATER’S CLUB CARD!! GIVE ME BACK MY OUTLOOK, PLEASE!!
19. Dee 12.11.07 / 10am

    Check this one out!

    I just scheduled a meeting and the spell checker highlighted a problem with the meeting start date
    “12/12 Repeated word”

    Duoh!
20. Ash 12.12.07 / 7am

    Oh the wonders of Lotus Notes…..er yeh wotever!
    I work for a cheapskate company, who threw away Outlook for Lotus Notes due to its ‘cheap’ license. Cheap? I wonder why it is so cheap for….oh yeh i forgot, its a crud program!
    A usual 10 minute job now turns into a 2 hour job, because this sodding program drains all your system resources and stops you from typing in the good ol’ SIMPLE programs like Word and Excel.

    Why, it was only the other day that i spent 2 mind numbing hours reading through the 2000 page manual to find out how to attach a flippen animated GIF file! And when it did apply the other user couldnt access it because it wasn’t attached, grrrrr!

    Out of Office message? I know already that the other person is out of the office else why would I be sending the freakin email! I can SEE they are out of the office, i just saw the boss walk out!

    One of the annoying key moments is that you are happily typing away on another program, suddenly you get an email and the entire Lotus Notes window pops open! After waiting 2-3 minutes for the window to change from white to visual text, you then have to minimize it cause the mail was junk and you can then get on with your work. Oh fun!

    At least our company has a special ‘System Downtime’ timesheet. My name is written all over it!!!!!!
21. cbfitz 12.12.07 / 4pm

    How did they sell so much of this lame software?
    They used to say “nobody every got fired for picking IBM”…that should change.
22. The Phantom! 01.12.08 / 7am

    Lotus notes is the bain of all soceity issues! I am just about to extracate it from the organisation I work for and wanted to get this off me chest!

    Down with Lotes…………….. (lotus notes!)
23. Bill 01.17.08 / 1pm

    I’ve used Lotus Notes, Outlook, Mail (OS X), Thunderbird and many others. The “stupidest” e-mail client is Lotus Notes, even in its latest incarnation (version 8).

    The real problem is that Lotus Notes is not an e-mail client.
    It’s more like a synchronized database manager/front end. An e-mail Inbox just happens to be one of the “databases” Notes synchronizes with.

    As most people have noted, it makes for a very “unusual” e-mail client. However, for syncing databases with a Notes server, MS, nor anybody else, has no equal. Since all databases are treated equally and e-mail is just another Notes application, it’s hard to make it nice as an e-mail client without doing a lot of special work-arounds. Use it for what it was originally built for and you’ll see the beauty of it.
24. Tim 01.18.08 / 2pm

    I am a contract developer and some of my clients use Lotus Notes. I try to do as little as possible in Notes/Domino because I don’t want the piece of crap to stain my good reputation. You think the client interface and email is bad? You should try explaining to a client why they can’t see data that was just added to a database. The answer is “when Notes gets around to updating the index… until then, the app won’t work.” Oh yes, you can force the refresh, but I thought databases got past that somewhere in the 60’s. It can also be embarassingly slow with a relatively trivial amount of data.
    At least I sometimes have the power to recommend software and my mantra is “Just say NO to Notes”.
25. Winkle 01.19.08 / 3pm

    Tim, you sound like an AWESOME developer that you can’t work Notes “out of the box”: can’t see data as soon as it’s added to the db? Of course you can! You actually have to go out of your way to code an application in which you CAN’T see you data. Full text indexes out of date? Well set them to update instantly then. Jesus… you can lead a horse to water.
26. Taija 01.24.08 / 4am

    Rachelm920 wrote at 11.14.07: “4.I HATE THE STUPID SPLASH SCREEN!!!!! It takes forever for it to load, and the splash screen stays on top of every other program you have on your PC. I�ve tried to disable it, but unlike every other software you cannot!” - I agree. But web is wonderful place, all the things you can find from there!!! Like advise that if you are using Notes on Windows, you can disable the splash screen by changing the starting link from pointing to “notes.exe” to “nlnotes.exe” (in properties window). Voil�! Worked at least on my Notes 6.5.
27. Pri 01.25.08 / 3pm

    We sent an email to a client who is using lotus notes and the from email address removed the dots from the email address - is this normal? For example, the sender’s email address is “ab.ce.fg.abc@xyz.com” - in Lotus notes it shows it as “abce.fgabc@xyz.com” - please note the two missing dots. Please let me know if anyone else has seen this. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
28. LS 02.04.08 / 11am

    LN is the most un-user friendly piece of software in the world…nay, the UNIVERSE. What the heck is a hotspot?! It is such a resource hog that I can’t have it open with any other programs!
29. Aaon 02.13.08 / 3pm

    NSD is running.
30. Jim 02.20.08 / 6am

    As soon as I sat down at my new job and turned the computer on, I knew I would hate Lotus Notes. I was given a short induction and all time I could only wonder why it couldn’t just be easy to use like Outlook. I didn’t want to access data bases and such, I just wanted to check emails when I first got into the office in a morning

    I felt like I was composing emails in an old version of Microsoft Publisher what with all the dark green speckly colours and such. Then there were the pictures one could attach to a signature to make one feel like an individual. Hmm, shall I go for the space rocket or the basketball this week? It just looks tacky. As do the little hands with pointing fingers used in some applaications in place of a traditional arrow pointer. These looked like directions to toilets in Victorian British pubs.

    Absolutely hated it and I’m glad it was only a temporary contract as I am now back with Outlook.
31. There's always a middle way 02.20.08 / 8am

    My handy maxim is that if you only remember one thing about Lotus Notes then remember it’s crap.

    That said…. Jeez there are some very dumb people posting on here! Especially the person who took two hours to add a GIF and then managed to screw it up! That has nothing to do with Notes matey….that’s just idiocy.
32. Czar 02.23.08 / 6am

    I’m a lowly Lotus Notes user and I can’t stand it anymore. This program/package whatever you want to call it may be the ultimate IT geek wet dream but as a guy who just needs email and calendaring features, this thing does not work well. Interface, non standard commands, weird things happening when saving new records, a stupid searching function… this is crap.

    The IT guys love it because they say it can do so much more than Outlook ’cause you see, it’s a db. Ooohhh… but in order to get any new application built in Notes you need an army of programmers.

    Lotus Notes is a conspiracy to make IT guys indispensable and buy them a lifelong job supporting it

    Thanks for reading.
33. David Tharp 02.29.08 / 7am

    My day has just been made. After 5 years with Notes, quit working for two years, now I’m back with the same large outfit, and back using Notes. It has some dopey “my work” portal, which solicited my favorite web page. Spontaneously tried the first URL that came to mind, and here I am!

    I can’t use Notes, with its deranged user interface and consistent ability to thwart the simplest of tasks, for more than 1/2 hour before saying, out loud, “F***ing Notes!”

    Glad I’m not the only one….
34. Phantom101 03.03.08 / 7am

    Has no one heard of the outlook domino connector that allows you to use Outlook instead? My company uses notes and I’ve been using outlook since I’ve been here cos Notes is a peice of poo.

    Download the outlook domino connector from here:

    http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/genuineValidation.aspx?familyid=8ebbba59-5f17-4e52-8980-c4f0dfa92d65&displaylang=en
35. Matt 03.03.08 / 9am

    The only application on the planet where F5 logs you out! And who the hell thought it would be a good idea to make Ctrl + N = New Database instead of New Email. Seriously, that’s just what the average office user needs …
36. Wayne 03.05.08 / 4am

    Interesting set of complaints.. most of which could be remedied with some training, which it seems most people didn’t get.
    It would be nice if people listed the *version* of notes they are using as well as the type of computer they are using - someone reading might actually be able to help you get your work done…
    But it really seems to be (a) old, no longer supported software, (b) mis-configured software or (c) inadequate hardware
37. Hans Anders 03.06.08 / 1am

    We’re using Notes 8 and it really rocks!
38. Simon 03.12.08 / 11am

    Most of you who’ve posted are the lucky ones who only use Notes for email - In our laboratory we use version 5 for our entire (business critical) quality system database! It’s so abysmal I’m actually finding it difficult to express in words.

    I’m lucky in that I don’t have to use it as much as some, but when I do, It literally makes we weep for the sake of humanity. Even simple tasks like formatting text into paragraphs and bullet points is beset by random font changes, random tab insert lengths, random word wrap etc. etc. ad nauseum Something that would only take 20min in any other program I care to think of takes 4 times as long in Notes. And to really top it off, things that I’ve saved usually loose their formatting by the time I next open them…

    May several sizeable biblical plagues beset all those who had a hand in the creation of this foul smelling beast.
39. rearden215 03.13.08 / 10am

    Thrashing Lotus Notes in the year 2008 seems akin to lamenting the 4k memory limits on a TRS-80 with eight inch floppy drives.

    On the positive side, Notes serves as an excellent artifact of what the emerging world of distributed computing looked like from a vantage point around 1988 before networks and before Microsoft became the standard.

    At that time, personal computers were being placed on nearly everyone’s desk at work and corporate America found itself with the dilemma of managing and integrating the data and work product from all those isolated workstations into something meaningful at the top level of business.

    Notes seemed like a grand idea within the context of 5.25 inch floppies, character-based programs and ’sneaker nets’ and there was ever a killer app which could democratize all that information in the organization, Notes was it.

    Lotus Development played ‘Let’s Make a Deal’ with it’s future development roadmap and chose the wrong development platform door for Notes: OS/2. Yeah, it was yet another Jim Manzi Mistake in the mold of Lotus Symphony, Lotus Agenda and Lotus Improv- all products which could have been great but just did not make it in business, and a mistake which could have been corrected early, but was not.

    So, what the MS Windows world received in Lotus Notes was a kludge from day one as it remains. I developed Notes apps under OS/2 in 1991 and continued trying to develop apps under Windows up to the time IBM bought Lotus Development. And, I hated the work.

    The biggest single downfall of Notes was it’s lack of a real database backend, so to speak, but it never really tried to sell itself as having one- developers, like myself, and customers tried to force Notes to act as if it did have one.

    Instead of a true db container, we had the Notes Storage Facility (.nsf file) which was pure flat file data storage only a step or two above the facility container architecture of 1-2-3. No relational table joins, no two phase commits, no db cursor- no anything to manage ‘real’ data as the customers were clamoring for! But, it was never meant to be all that. Notes was originally geared more toward managing team collaboration data, discussion text and file directory locations and this is a long way from managing critical data at the business level. Oracle had that market sewed up so why bother?

    The problem with Notes is us.

    We, as users and developers, insisted on seeing Lotus Notes as being everything to all people and, like the old saying ‘When all you have is a hammer, everything starts to look like a nail.’ is apropos here.

    It is probably time to let Notes go the way of Symphony, Agenda and Improv- with warm memories, a few diehard users still loving the tool and a long writeup in Wikipedia. For me, I now use Chandler and iMail under OS X.
40. Pip 03.19.08 / 6am

    Dear Sam who wrote…

    “And by the way Notes is NOT mail. It is an application development platform. If you are using it for nothing more than mail, then congratulations, you get the award for using the most expensive mail client in the universe.”

    This is the excuse of every single Notes administrator under the sun… I strongly suggest you get trained in something other than this pish!

    The whole issue is that the majority of the corporate users who use Notes never use the rest of the functioanality, all they want is a decent mail client! Which you have to agree this is the absolute worst there is!

    Also, one of my big issues is having no recent mail address caching to autofill email addresses!

    That’s my rant over… Bye!
41. Unfortunate User 03.24.08 / 8pm

    My employer just switched from Microsoft Webmail to Lotus Notes and it SUCKS. Outlook is the best.
42. David Vasta 03.29.08 / 8am

    I like Notes? Most of these problems are cause by you, the user, and some of them are in fact Notes Design but if you don’t like Notes then please don’t use it. Find another company that uses something else. The best part is when I read this and all of you are complaining about Lotus issues and the same issues exist in other products a well and the bulk of them problems on this page are Windows Related not Lotus Notes. I do however like this point of view. It’s good to know this many people are using the product. Viva Lotus Notes!
43. Col 03.29.08 / 10am

    “Also, one of my big issues is having no recent mail address caching to autofill email addresses!”

    Lotus Notes does have this feature, maybe your using an old version.
44. Col 03.29.08 / 10am

    “the biggest single downfall of Notes was it�s lack of a real database backend”

    Not all applications fit with relational database methodology but you can use DB2 as a back end if you wish.
45. Col 03.29.08 / 11am

    “but in order to get any new application built in Notes you need an army of programmers”

    Notes is one of the easiest/fastest application development platforms to work with. It’s common knowledge that developing in C# and .NET requires a lot more manpower.
46. Col 03.29.08 / 11am

    @ Ash
    “Why, it was only the other day that i spent 2 mind numbing hours reading through the 2000 page manual to find out how to attach a flippen animated GIF file!”

    Chose File -> Import from the menu.

    2 hours? - you should be worried, your boss might read this and realize he’s made a big mistake.
47. Col 03.29.08 / 11am

    “Send email to another employee that is out of the office and get the AUTO REPLY two HOURS later. What a sweet piece of software.”

    Use the latest version and get an immediate reply.
48. Andre 03.29.08 / 11am

    I used Lotus Notes since 1996 and I must have been lucky to have great Administrators. For me it was the best e-mail Client. Seriously I do not understand the fuss. I have worked in 6 companies (I am neither a developer nor an Administrator) and it seems I have been really lucky to be able to work with Notes. 1 huge organisation I worked for used Siebel for their CRM and used a mix of different applications because they did not understand the power of Notes as an Application System. The other companies understood and had a mix of well developed applications. Ranging from CRM to Teamrooms to time recording. One (!!!!) Notes Developer in the bank I used to work developed a Loan system in Notes which was sold to other banks for a lot of money. It worked great. If you are a senior Manager in an organisation your employees complain about Lotus Notes please get new Administrators!!
49. Jon 03.30.08 / 6am

    “Also, one of my big issues is having no recent mail address caching to autofill email addresses!”

    Lotus Notes does have this feature, maybe your using an old version.
50. Bob 03.31.08 / 7am

    I’ve moved from a company that used Notes to one that has Outlook. Generally Outlook is great - but I just can’t find anything. Notes has a powerful search engine built right in, I could find anything pretty much instantly. Outlook chugs for several minutes, then doesn’t find the mail I’m looking for. I’ve tried Google desktop, Microsoft desktop search etc - they help, but still nowhere near as good as Notes.
51. Richard 03.31.08 / 11am

    I use Lotus Notes 8, and I think all of the above is fixed..
    ie.OOO is instant
    type ahead addressing
    HTML emails

    I really really like Notes….
    PS I don’t think our server has been down in over 2years… where I used to work (they had Exchange) it was down once a week!
52. Jerry 04.01.08 / 9am

    Latest discovery:
    Monthly calendar shows each week as runing from Sunday - Saturday.
    Weekly calendar shows each week as running from Monday - Sunday.
    So, when I click on Sunday, 06 Apr 08 on the monthly calendar in the left pane, it highlights 06-12 April .. and in the right pane shows the week of 31 Mar - 06 Apr.
    
    I like Notes … I’ve had many hours of laughter from it!
53. Andrew 04.02.08 / 7am

    So Wayne thinks it’s a matter of training, eh…?

    And exactly what weird dimension do people inhabit who think that anyone should need training in how to use a mail client?

    Ah, but it’s not a mail client, is it? No… It’s a db platform. Right. Except that’s not what 99% of users use it for.

    And believe me, I have steered clear of ever, ever, EVER trying to develop a db of any kind on this steaming pile of elephant excreta. If the horror (oh, the horror!) of the mail client is anything to go by, trying to write a decent application in it must be somewhat akin to having your spleen removed without anesthetic… by a blind gorilla using only a rusty spoon and a rolled up newspaper.
    So I’ll stick to ASP.NET and SQL for quickly and easily developing client independent db apps and not losing the will to live in the process.

    In conclusion…

    Lotus Notes - as chosen by high up executives, who don’t need to bother with their e-mail, because their poor, poor secretaries suffer through that in stead.
54. Jerry 04.02.08 / 10am

    Re: Col�s criticism of a previous poster:

    Ridiculing someone after-the-fact for not knowing beforehand how to do something, like attach … er, no maybe it�s insert … er, no, it�s File -> Import … a GIF file is unfair.

    �What? Slit .. clip .. cut .. sew � and for THAT you spent twelve years in med school?!�
55. Ryan 04.03.08 / 10am

    The other posts have covered most of the unintuitive software atrocities that comprise Lotus Notes, so let me just throw out this little bit of icing…

    Our IT-provided PCs and Laptops come with an application preinstalled called ZapNotes which is (frequently) used to stop all the Notes related processes when the client hangs, and then restarts them all. IBM made ZapNotes.

    I’m serious.
56. Have given up 04.06.08 / 12am

    Where I work, most people have a small program installed called KillNotes. It shuts down Notes, since it normally is impossible to shut it down the normal way for the majority of the users.

    I have never heard of any other software for which there is great need for such an application.
57. Jay Hawkings 04.06.08 / 11pm

    If I have a keyboard layout for a given country and an operating system that supports that country/layout, why do the imbeciles who wrote Notes think I would want to change that layout JUST for their product? One minute I’m working away fine and the next it’s reconfigured and I’ve lost half an hour trying to figure out why. Every other application is fine - including this web site/browser.

    It’s like the children that wrote Notes got a book on the Windows API and some example code off the internet, found it worked and randomly built it crap unwanted functionality into a product.

    Notes is the height of true counter-productivity. IBM bought a pup. It’s not got any better in the 10 years I’ve had to use it.

    I’m at a loss.
58. Mike 04.07.08 / 4pm

    I just started a new job for a rather large company and they use Lotus Notes. Everywhere else that I have worked we always used Outlook which is what I am used to and what I use on my personal laptop pc at home.

    Not only am I forced to use this archaic system which the programs of the software made for other programmers but they use Notes 6.5. I have seen screen shots of Notes 8 and it actually looks tolerable. Notes is probably the worst email system/client I have ever had the displeasure of using. I wish IBM would discontinue it and support for it making everyone that currently uses it have to switch to something more useful like the post office.
59. sylvia 04.08.08 / 5am

    whoever invtented lotus notes must have just had a lobotomy …. from outlook to this …. !! my favourite question: Do you want to save this …. why ask it doesn’t save anything …….
60. chris 04.15.08 / 5am

    got latest notes at work and it is shit. it crashes for no reason. takes hours to send out out of office replies and just looks so so wank - like a kid won a competition on art attack to design the layout.

    anyway i wish they’d get something better.

    oh and it never saves my default browser which is so shit as well…

    …and crashes every time i try to exit it
61. George 04.15.08 / 4pm

    I have worked many places that bosted they had a very funtional and successful system. Yes, some did and some did not. But recently I just started working in a company that is world wide and the Lotus SUCKS! BIG TIME!
    Go figure, The biggest company works with the worst crap!
    It’s a hog with security and presenting nothing but fustration while trying to get things done.
    The IT guy seems to be proud of this junk. I think he should take the Lotus home and play with it himself while the rest of us move on and keep op with the changing times.
62. Greg 04.16.08 / 2am

    omg, having used MS Outlook for so long - I didn’t know how good I had it…

    I think I might have to end it all
63. Tom Shi 04.22.08 / 2am

    Lotus Notes 8.0.1 is shining, brightly. Give a try, guys.
64. Derek 04.28.08 / 9am

    My company got bought by another and we had to switch from Outlook to LN. Oh the horror. However I’ve been successfully using the Outlook Connector for Domino for two years; so I am able to use Outlook for Mail, Calendar, Tasks, etc and it synchs with my company’s Domino server. It can be a little buggy with the email formatting, but I’ll take that anyday to keep using Outlook. Highly recommended.
65. Lindsey 04.28.08 / 6pm

    My parent company dictated to us with an iron fist that we will use Lotus Notes. The agony of having to tell my users why I can’t simply reset their forgotton password, or why their names.nsf gets corrupted or why the email system just can’t be a simple easy to use program is beyond me. This program has more bugs then the Orkin Man and is so confusing that even Ken Jennings despises it. I would even vote for the old Paul Revere pen and paper method over this pain. This is why being in IT sucks!
66. Jake 04.29.08 / 4am

    Hah.
    You little whiners. If you loose so much time using LN instead of some other software, you should complain to your superiors not here. Or perhaps you don’t dare….
67. PHL 04.29.08 / 5pm

    They who does not know please don�t give your apinon here - Lotus notes vs Exchange War is not fair … to Exchange. Try this all of you that hate notes . Take a MS application that was build in WB 3 and run it on Vista. hmmm yes it does not work. And by the time you get Next version of Ms crap VB 6 will not work ether. All of you ” I hate Lotus notes ” READ this ITS a Application Platform not a just a mail client ” Dumm assies
68. PHL 04.30.08 / 3am

    http://www.ihatems.com/ - EOM
69. Andy 04.30.08 / 5am

    Why oh why is IBM persisting with this outdated resource hog. I cannot think of a single reason why I would choose to use this junk over Outlook. As an E-Mail client it SUCKS ASS big stylee. I know that it was not originally designed as such but what possesses a company to ditch a perfectly running exchange 2000 envirnonment for this beggers belief
70. James 05.01.08 / 11am

    I upgraded from Lotus Notes 7 to 8.0.1

    guess what… Lotus Notes still sucks!!!

    I’m ready for the noose.
71. Keith 05.05.08 / 2pm

    Hi All,

    Hoping someone can help me as I too cannot stand Notes!! I recently starting using Outlook 2003 w/the domino connector (version 6.5.4) and from time to time when I send an email to an unfortunate Notes user they can’t see the text of my email. It dissappears. Any fixes out there? Unfortunatley my company uses notes so I wont’ be able to use the connector if this problem persists. thanks much
72. Glyn 05.09.08 / 8pm

    These comments:

    >>“Also, one of my big issues is having no recent mail address caching to autofill email addresses!”<>>>Lotus Notes does have this feature, maybe your using an old version.<<<<

    How do you do that (Release 7); how does one turn on the caching to autofill email addresses? Someone please please tell me.

    I worked for one firm (company A) for 8 years, went to a different firm (company B) for 15 months, and am now back at company A. I was miserable at B, but there was one thing I preferred; A - Notes, B - Outlook.

    Those who say “….its more than email, it is a ‘database’ or an ‘application’….” do not realize that trying to apply it to non-email things isn’t very good either.

    One last thing, how come I can’t send a file directly from Excel or Word, i.e., the “send-to mail receipient” command is greyed out in Word, and doesn’t appear in Excel. Why does Notes take away helpful conveniences?

    Developers with the comment along the lines of “It is an application development platform” sort of miss the point. The average user (even a user in IT with a bit of development experience) doesn’t want all of that; he/she wants email. Furthermore, if it really is “an application development platform” it isn’t a good one. In my 8 years with Company A I encountered example after example of trying to do a simple task in Notes (example: distribution of financial statements) which wasn’t very good, yet was very very hard to manage/administer.

    Finally; I am a bit old-fashioned - I still have a Tungsten Palm Pilot (too cheap to buy a BlackBerry). I like having a handheld calendar and address book. Notes (rel 7) can’t sync with my Palm - Outlook could. Again, another convenience taken away.

    To conclude; this rant isn’t to worship Microsoft (I could type just as much on Office 2007 - crap); but Microsoft productions look outstanding compared to Notes.
73. MissHiss 05.12.08 / 11pm

    I hate Lotus Notes. I have turned down 2 jobs because of this stupid software. One of my close friends works in a company who has Lotus. I am considering cutting out our friendship. I can’t stand jumbled up emails.
74. Matthew 05.16.08 / 5am

    Why oh why did they change Notes 8 so that Ctrl-Tab no longer cycles through open windows? I used to use it _all_the_time_. Instead you have to do Ctrl-F8 and select, which means taking your right hand off the mouse…
75. shedzy 05.28.08 / 6am

    I gave lotus notes my baby to kiss - and it bit him - on the head……….
76. Veronica12 05.28.08 / 10am

    Dear Col,

    Are u working for Lotus support team?
77. Todd 05.30.08 / 8am

    Working at a place that uses Lotus Notes for Intranet Mail and Outlook Web for Internet Mail…

    I am trying to figure out how to make Lotus Notes look and feel like Outlook, instead of it’s current state of looking and working more like IE7 or Firefox.

    Outlook is the standard for email… Why do people try and reinvent the wheel. Juts gimme’ a preview pane and get rid of these stupid tabs.

    Todd DJ Website Designer
78. jason parsons 06.17.08 / 4am

    Hi all,

    I am in the process of migrating to notes 8.0.1 from outlook. I have imported my contacts fine however I havent the slightest clue how to import personal calendars. Does any one know how to do so without inviting the participants again?

    Thank you
    Jay
79. Gary 06.24.08 / 8am

    I worked with Lotus Notes at my former employer, it was lot’s of fun as you can imagine. My current employer was using Outlook but switched to Lotus Notes (Notes came from a company they bought and just sold off after it never made a profit) so (they say) we could communicate internationally with all divisions. I thought that’s what email is for?? So we had a program that was included at no cost in our operating system, worked well, no complaints. Now we have an expensive, non-intuitive, unreliable, P.O.S. The cost to convert? I don’t even want to know. The disruption, loss of productivity, frustration? Unmeasurable. The best part? Were going to convert back to Outlook in 2 years!!!
    Get this; if you want to change default fonts there is a provision to do that, but Notes does not change the name of the font so in your font window it is still the name they set up origonally. Better yet, if you want to change the font size you have to put a line of instruction in the .ini file with a multiplier which has no relationship to actual font sizes everyone else uses. So you guess, shut down, launch and see if you like it. If not, repeat until satisfied! A tech weenie dream, a normal persons nightmare!
80. rr 07.01.08 / 8pm

    most recently, when i click the calendar button, i get mail instead.

    i wouldn’t use this bloated piece of crap, but my company uses the non-standard encryption feature. give me an email client that isn’t trying to be my web browser, my spreadsheet editor, my document editor, my collaboration tool, or my chat client. i want this thing to do one thing well, not a thousand things poorly.
81. Josh 07.02.08 / 2pm

    The company I work for is so obsessed with Lotus Notes it makes my brain hurt thinking about it. The past few employers were smart enough to just use Exchange or Exchange and Lotus Notes for some functioning but not this employer.

    The only way I have found to survive day to day is to install the Outlook connector for Domino Servers, yet this comes with some issues where people get blank emails and my mail file is always getting corrupted though still I can survive, just every once in a while I have to use notes to get messages to people whom can’t receive them from the Outlook client.

    I don’t understand how anyone could enjoy this program, the interface looks like it was designed for Windows 3.11, it is really unstable running under WINE when I use Kubuntu Linux (the Linux client will not compile), it is terrible for people with disabilities seeing you have to manually edit notes config files to increase the font size and it only works 40% of the time when you do this.
82. rr 07.02.08 / 7pm

    today i discovered that a loop can easily happen when two irresponsible mail servers try to communicate. yes, qmail responds with an error 5.1.1 from mailer-daemon@domain that the mailbox mailer-daemon is non-existent. a lotus auto-responder then dutifully responds to the 5.1.1 with the auto-response. lather, rinse, repeat, exponentially waste storage, pray to the email gods for sendmail.
83. Ricardo 07.03.08 / 9am

    I hate Lotus Notes. I never thought I would hate any piece of software as much as I hate this shit.
    Why can’t I just copy to my machine the emails? Why do I have to select between “server/machne/shit/whereisit/blababla” to do anything, like copy my contacts? Why cannot I synchronize fastly with my contacts on my Nokia?
    What about those devilish menus which changes all the time? And the fool calendar behavior?
    Look at what a piece of art which come directly from Satanas himself is capable to do to drive you completely nuts: once I, by mistake, deleted the mail icon on the bookmarks menu at the left. Voila! It will never come back. Nor even if you hire the entire Microsoft development department. To fit together with the Google development department. Once deleted, it will never come back.
    I’ll stop here, otherwise I’ll fill kilometers of hated comments over replication, archiving, and so on.
    Please someone on Nasa send the IBM Lotus team to Saturno. Maybe there they’ll find a place where no one wants to kill them because of Notes.
    And for those - IT geeks or something - two notes: 1- Everybody uses this piece of stinking wet shit ONLY for email and calendar because they are OBLIGATED to do so because of their jobs. So, f*ck off it it is a db client or whatever! It is a big shit whose only purpose is slow donw the work and raise the stress; 2- This site is called “I hate lotus notes”, if you are not aware. So, lap off, if you like it!!!!
84. Gaurav Kadyan 07.07.08 / 1am

    I absolutely hate the #$%# piece of software and its even bad for me cause i am stuck with lotus notes 5.0 !!!!!!!
85. Tsaar 07.07.08 / 2am

    Lotus Notes is the most Counterproductive piece of Crap Software ever Produced.

    It does not even get the basics right.
    Reminders for appointments, Archiving of mail, copying mail into to-do items, all have serious design flaws and are hideously user-unfriendly.

    And then I’m not even talking about cryptic error messages, unneccasary complexity, putting user preferences scattered around six or seven locations, the Utterly Retarded use of the ID file.

    Right now I’m coping with the fact that Notes thinks my mailfile’s size is over it’s limit when it isn’t. Allready one hour down trying to sync my local & erver copies of the maildatabase. Sure. Fine.

    This software makes me sick.
86. Lotus Hater 07.09.08 / 1pm

    Sorry or the swearing but…Notes is a FUCKING PIECE A SHITTY SOFTWARE…I HATE IT!!!!
87. jaded 07.10.08 / 7pm

    Why the f___ does it make the “ping”/new email sound when i don’t have new emails? It makes no sense. My F9 key will be the first thing to fall off my keyboard, no doubt about it. Hate hate hate Lotus Notes, for that and so much more.

    It’s not that easy to complain about/be rid of LN (as suggested by Jake / 04.29.08 / 4am). A lot of the bigger companies that use LN have been doing so for years. They can’t simply change over to Outlook or another application overnight.
88. mike n 07.11.08 / 9am

    Notes is the best software ever written… for me to poop on!
89. Notes Hater 07.11.08 / 10am

    I don’t even know where to begin. As an email application, Lotus Notes is the worst!!

    - If you happen to be typing on your keyboard when a reminder pops up (why would anyone be typing on their keyboard), it accepts your buffered characters as input for the reminder & disappears so fast, you can’t even see what the reminder was for even if you are looking at it.

    - They finally added sort by subject, but it still doesn’t help much because it considers the “Re:” & “Fw:” as part of the subject, so you replies & forwards getting sorted separately from the original & each other.

    - Every time you close the app, you have to re-open the folders that you previously had open.

    and on and on….

    I’m not a big MS fan, but Outlook is so far ahead of Notes that it isn’t even funny.
90. BB 07.14.08 / 11am

    Gee why the hell would I WANT to save an email address to remember and make it easy for you later?

    Nah, I’d rather make you remember if from your brain or save every email address to contacts …

    F___ THIS PRODUCT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
91. Joran 07.15.08 / 8am

    I started 2 months ago working as a software developer developing web 2.0 solutions….using lotus notes.

    During that time the things I’ve witnessed Lotus Notes in it’s multiple versions do have left me speechless. I have never seen software this bad. Let alone software that is both this terrible and this heavily used and relied upon.

    Some highlights from my travels:
    “Formula Language code running on the web”
    There is simply no way to debug this. It actually says that in a book I read on the subject. Any formula language running in the web environment is near impossible to debug. No printline, no messageboxes, no output to javascript. Nothing. Developing successfully like this is impossible.

    “IDE Text Editors: Javascript”
    Within a website, should you wish to use javascript code you are presented with a text editor which Lucifer Himself created that has 0 features.
    This useful editor will, upon attempting to save or even change focus, attempt to “compile” (???) your non-compilable javascript (?????) in the search for syntax errors. Upon finding anything, it will move the selector a completely random location in the code and will refuse to continue. Thanks. Occasionally the errors wont even exist, and copying and pastnig the code back into the editor will make the error go away.

    Now that they’re up to version 8.5beta, the bleeding edge of Lotus Technology, where they herald the fact that they’ve achived seamless intergration with the fantastic Eclipse IDE, the bitter reality is that this “integration” is actually them puttnig the same awful editor with eclipse as the window border. Epic fail.
92. JonM 07.16.08 / 2pm

    Last year I joined a company who used LN, having used Outlook for a number of years in my previous employer. We recently took over another company who uses Outlook, and they are fighting the good fight not to lose Outlook. I also recently had a laptop issued to me, and it has taken 4 days and 1.5 md lost time to get it to work offline and I needed IT support to do it for me. It took me minutes to configure my last version of Outlook for the same task. I have to say I hate LN with a vengence and will certainly consider it as an employer selection criteria in the future. We are currently using LN 6, and if the LN enthustiasts get their way we will be going to LN 8, which they say looks just like Outlook. Unfortunately it won’t be!!! OK, LN is more than an email client, but it really does not do email well so why persist with it. I have a huge mail file which I daren’t archive as I have been told it will vapourise my archived email. In Outlook it was a simple case of a personal folder that was stored with all my other project stuff. I can go on, but I think you have got the point by now.
93. Charles on… anything that comes along » The Lotus Notes hating just goes on… and on 07.21.08 / 6am

    [...] always interesting though is that pro-Notes people who will leap into these pits of hating and try, vainly, to tell people that the fact they’re hating Notes is because (1) they [...]
94. Charles 07.21.08 / 8am

    So we’re a British company.
    1) during British Summer Time, Notes doesn’t allow for that fact when creating appointments - so when I import them to iCal (I just won’t use Notes for email or anything else) the time is off by an hour.
    2) dates are shown on webmail in American mm/dd/yy format, which to Brits used to dd/mm/yy is stupid indeed.

    Yeah, yeah, I know Notes v X+2 fixes all this, we’re stupid for using the old one etc etc. Whatever. It doesn’t work right. And that’s before the email, which has been well lashed above.
95. MihaIL 07.21.08 / 10am

    Dear JonM. All about your archive will be vapourise is folk. Once you setup archive, you will forget about it. You will have same mailbox in same structure at one click distance in that achive. Trust me I use LN during 2 years and never lost one single mail. But I lost mails from pst files or dbx files when file size increase over 1.5 GB. In LN limitation is around 64GB.
96. Armand Hammer 07.23.08 / 7am

    The self proclaimed “Notes Gurus” need to to make the windows close [X] at the upper right corner of the desktop “go away”. If I had a buck for each time I hit THAT instead of a close tab, which then forces me to restart notes, I would be able to afford the IBM course “making lotus notes popular”… But then again, WHO WANTS TO !!!!!
97. Lotus_Notes_Supporter 07.23.08 / 8pm

    I am working for Philips Electronics which is one of the largest Lotus Notes customer in Europe. They are just started moving from Lotus Notes mail to Exchange , along with that all Lotus application to SharePoint and dot net. I have used lotus notes mail client for more than 5 years , now started using Outlook. I just amazed how people compare Lotus Notes to Outlook . In outlook you don’t have any command over mails, if you want to move your new mails to specific folder on run time , how can you accomplish this in outlook ? Still I am searching how to create table in your mail , since it’s always disabled for me.One of the funniest incident I encounter yesterday , Out one of the functional mail box has been migrated to Outlook . That mail box was used to get all customer mails and complaints , which has been handled by number of members in our team. In Notes when we sends an e-mail through that functional mail box , that mail goes to the “Sent” folder of functional mail box . Which can be referred by other members to know the updates. But when we did same in outlook , sent mail was saved in that person’s “sent” folder who sent an e-mail. What’s a great feature !!!!

    Another thing is performance issue , most of the time connection with the exchange server always broken and makes delay in delivering an e-mail . Everyday I start my machine and go for a tea, once i back only that i can see new mails in outlook. You know those who supported outlook initially for migration , They people are saying we need to think for other e-mail solution . Because only 40K users has been moved to Outlook , still half of the users are left. More funny thing is that when I talk with our architect they itself tell it’s a such a bullshit client they have used . You know Lotus Notes mail was such a stable platform in our organization from past decades.

    continue in other comment….
98. Lotus_Notes_Supporter 07.23.08 / 8pm

    Continue….

    Sometimes I feel why most of the Lotus Notes consumers think Notes is just a mail system , they never tried to understand what else IBM provideds with just mail system. In Notes, You can build a powerful application which includes the mailing feature , but do you think will it be that easy if you do in dotnet/outlook ?

    In few months I have evaluated outlook and sharepoint both thoroughly and can conclude Lotus Notes is a gem.
99. Good Riddance 07.25.08 / 2pm

    Notes was apparently devised with a single overriding goal: to completely frustrate any human attempt to use it productively. It’s the most unintuitive, poorly-engineered waste of a user’s time… EVER. The user interface is godawfully ugly and needlessly complicated— a misleading mess of redundant control panels, contextual menus, and hidden dialogs. Functionality is a joke. Clearly, this stinking pile was the product of myriad programming teams working without cohesive oversight or user testing over a long period of time. I would nominate it as the digital information age’s prime example of how NOT to process information and tasks.

    After many, many years of Notes Pain, my company FINALLY migrated to MS Outlook—and it feels as if we’ve suddenly stepped out of the Dark Ages. (I was told by an IT staffer that before the big switch, we were one of the very last large companies in America still torturing its employees with this software stain.) Notes is truly the digital equivalent of communicating with tin cans and string; and I am eternally grateful to finally… FINALLY… be rid of it. Never again will I have to see it’s cruddy “welcome screen”. Never again will I cringe upon hearing that pathetic, 1982-sounding “doodle-ee-doo” tune it uses to announce having successfully delivered an email (as if that was a task to be crowing over.)

    I sincerely hope IBM/Lotus’ steaming lump of code is officially extinct soon, because nobody— nobody— should have to endure that kind of pain.
100. rr 08.03.08 / 9am

     The Bloats client no longer opens on my Mac and a recent “upgrade” made IMAP unreliable. I guess I need to start using a printer and inter-office mail.
101. Johnathon 08.06.08 / 7pm

     I used Outlook for 8 years from using Outlook 95 through Outlook 2003 then switched jobs and went to lotus 6.0. I feel like I went to hell.

     I miss my logical keyboard shortcuts like Ctrl+S to send, and Ctrl+N for new…

     BIGGEST issue though has to be when copying Excel Data into an email. I get a frickin GIF file… WTF? why can’t I get manipulatable data??? you can’t do anything with it except print it in MS photo manager. I’d love to be able to copy it back into Excel. - Outlook never had issues like this…
102. manzikert 08.07.08 / 6am

     I can’t to add to any of the comments already made except that they’re not alone in their suffering. Today I noticed that in our office, which is blessed with Lotus Notes, we use ‘Lotus’ toiltet rolls. I can only imagine that when the manufacturers were brainstroming for a name of their product, someone must have asked what word office workers most likely associate with taking a crap and suggested Lotus Notes. I assume they only dropped the ‘Notes’ affix to avoid a lawsuit.
103. Lee Croucher 08.07.08 / 7am

     Lotus Notes does indeed suck……enought said…..all for Exchange
104. daGUY 08.10.08 / 9pm

     I have the pleasure of using Lotus Notes 6.5 at work. Without a doubt, it is the ugliest, slowest, most bloated and unintuitive piece of software I’ve ever used. I don’t even know where to start.

     Some things I’ve discovered:

     - When you get new mail, an icon shows up in the system tray, but it doesn’t disappear unless you double-click on it to switch to Notes. In other words, if I switch to Notes on my own (i.e., with alt-tab) and then mark the new mail as read, the icon doesn’t disappear

     - Occasionally, I’ll get the new mail icon for no reason. I double-click it, it switches to my inbox, and I have no new mail. WTF?

     - Sending and receiving emails from outside the company is amazingly unreliable. Half the time, an email that I send out (or an outside email that gets sent to me) never gets delivered (WTF?). The other half of the time, it gets delivered hours and hours later, and the timestamp won’t even match. For example, I can send an email out at 11:00 AM, the person on the other end won’t receive it until 4:30 PM, and in their inbox, it’ll be timestamped as 2:30 PM. ???

     - Half the time when I quit it, it hangs. If it happens to NOT hang, it actually takes longer to quit than Photoshop (yes, Photoshop!). During the course of the day, I might have 10 - 15 different programs open, and I can actually quit ALL of the others before JUST Notes quits!

     I could go on and on…
105. Chibikko 08.11.08 / 2pm

     Im making an investigation about Mail client, on of them is Lotus Notes… and its really the MOST unpopular one in ALL this universe… yeah i know its cool for db stuff… but who cares if its been applyed to ppl who dont care or even use that perform… IBM can make a friendly version of this… or maybe DONT sell it as an easy and good software. In fact i hadnt find any kind of webpages with this kind of issues… only Lotus Notes has an ANTIFAN club! WOW! … if some one can add some about why lotus notes sucks to get email marketing It would be great!
106. Lonedangler 08.13.08 / 12pm

     @ Jonathan
     Copy the table from XL > click in the body of the Memo > Edit > Paste Special > Rich Text > OK

     Indeed, Notes is kryptonite to productivity and happy work. One problem not yet mentioned stems from IBM selling the idea that Notes is an easy to use development platform. This has produced thousands of quasi-technical “programmers” who really don’t have the intellectual bent for application development. And don’t get me started on Domino admins. UGH.

     I have used and supported Notes 5-8 and with each successive release have been increasingly awed by IBM’s overblown, quixotic turd polishing.
107. Keith Brooks 08.13.08 / 1pm

     As a long time email manager(from before windows based email) not going to try to change any of your minds, you have your complaints, however misguided some are, because of your IT staff or lack of training or personal preferences.

     Do you enjoy having so many multiple windows on your screen everytime you try to do something with outlook?
     Why can’t Microsoft use one window and stay in it?

     Why doesn’t user lookups for sending email ever work properly in Outlook?

     If you prefer Gmail? Did you enjoy the 45 minutes of downtime the other day? The Cloud is really no better than your own IT people.

     What if you don’t like Windows? Ah you say Entourage for MACs, perhaps but still not a great option based on incompatability with other Microsoft products.
     Prefer Linux? Lotus has a MAC, Linux and Windows client.

     Outlook has security? Where? As along as I log in to my pc I can use Outllok. No ID required. And that is a good thing?

     Just some food for thought. And at the end of the day, if the UI is your only issue, Outlook does not allow for any customization of the UI. Can you detach pieces of it to view on a second monitor? Can you change the look and feel of the entire client? Even the background? no, you can’t.
     You can in Lotus Notes.
108. Lincoln Graham 08.14.08 / 3am

     I just moved to a new big corporation on secondment and to put it in perspective the agency who placed me made a joke of not telling me the company used Lotus notes just in case I turned the job down.

     I have worked with Lotus Notes before and didn’t like it then. And now again I am experiencing high frustration levels. I think Lotus didn’t evolve with the times and we have been spoilt with Outlook which has made us develop instinctive methods of operation - which we expect from Lotus notes - or any email client for that matter.

     The debate goes on and I can’t tell you exactly why I dislike Lotus Notes - all I can say it is I just don’t like using it. For me it’s like trying to do break dance in high heals!
109. Michael Winters 08.17.08 / 9pm

     Keith Brooks has it summed up perfectly. Notes is an administrators dream and a complete piece of junk for everyone else that goes near it.

     Users hate it, it breaks most known good design practices, it is slow and resource intensive, and crashes constantly. Despite everything IBM try to do, it still feels like some 1980’s software.

     From a developers perspective it is a nightmare. Think MS Access but worse! The “applications” written on Notes are a single ball of mushed up UI, business logic and data storage. It has mind boggling limits like 64k text fields and in 2008 the piece of crap is still single threaded.

     If only IBM would just follow through with one of the few good ideas they had a couple of years ago concerning Notes and kill it off.
110. Oliver 08.17.08 / 9pm

     Please give Notes 8 a try and then re-review Notes.
     Notes 8 has great features besides the Microsoft tax that all people are eager to pay.

     Nice site graphics btw, regards,
     Oliver
111. lee van laer 08.17.08 / 10pm

     Notes is without a doubt one of the most dysfunctional apps I’ve ever run across.

     Just for starters, how many other apps out there don’t support standard windows keyboard shortcuts? and what kind of idiot would design a program that didn’t?

     then we could mention ntaskldr.exe, an errant applet that prefers to remain resident in memory for many minutes after notes closes, occupying 95% of the cpu overhead and freezing the computer.

     anyone who thinks this software is function is delusional.
112. Neil 08.19.08 / 3am

     MihaIL - nonsense, just try running several projects over a few years filing / archiving in the same folder structure.. LN vaporises email from the archive folder structure and puts it wherever it wants to. If you archive all your mails in a given project, thereby leaving the folder structure intact to use for the next project, then rename the top folder to the new project name; forget about archiving after that… bye-bye mails - LN just gets confused. Furthermore, once you’ve archived a mail, it is not possible to return that mail to the inbox…
     Other whinges – geeky messages that no-one bar scriptwriters understand; trying to save an attachment via a shortcut just confuses the hell out of LN, the absoulutely idiotic reply function.. why on earth do I want to reply to myself…?; the crazy sent folder structure that loses mails if you don’t resalise that when you move a mail, you’re not actually moving it…!!! And so on and so on..
     At least with Outlook, I could keep a sensible archive of specific project communication & ALWAYS find that old email that saves me M$ of contractors sudden late additions to invoices… I HATE lotus notes!
113. Bubbula 08.20.08 / 8am

     Nothing like a product that has a DELETE button when you open an email, that won’t work unless you close the tab, and hit the same delete button from the list view … so this product has been around how long and can’t close and delete an email …

     what a fantastic product!!!!
114. Arne S Nielsen 08.22.08 / 11am

     This webpage is really funny. It’s like my kids: - I hate fish! - I hate school! - I hate, I hate, I hate!

     Lotus Notes is not email. It’s also email. Lotus Notes is much more - its a collaboration client. Those of you (guess most of you are teenagers) who use chat, webconferences, unified communication, databases, search, browsers, applications, sharing, finding, building professional networks, will understand what Notes is about. Notes is a tool for professionals - not for kids who like to chat, surf and have fun. It’s a worktool. That’s why 145 million people use it every day at work. Believe it or not!

     Get the latest version, connect it to a Domino server, connect to others on that server, use it, administrate it and use all the functionalities - and you’ll understand what it is all about.

     Get out of your blindfold folks! Open your eyes to the world and try something new. You might learn something!
115. Brian 08.22.08 / 1pm

     “Get the latest version, connect it to a Domino server, connect to others on that server, use it, administrate it and use all the functionalities - and you’ll understand what it is all about.”

     Like it is our choice. Why don’t we give ourselves raises and Fridays off.

     Notes may be much more than just email and that’s great, but it shouldn’t be used for email ’cause it sucks as an email client.
116. Willy 08.25.08 / 5am

     LN is an obsolete design that sucks processing power. As an application development platform, it fails miserably. Not much effort has been put into this software to modernize it. It is a huge ship that can’t turn in time to miss the iceberg. Why bother updating this huge mess when you can sucker buyers and make loads of money while putting little effort into it. Might as well be a virus for it hinders any work done on the computer and is completely worthless as an application development platform.
117. Michael Boyle 08.25.08 / 10am

     Anyone know why Notes gets into a mode where, when composing a “memo”, the up/down arrow keys do nothing and the left/right arrow keys shift the text left and right on the screen? With the right arrow, you can even shift it over so that the first 8 or 10 columns are hidden! Nice feature!
118. AdamB 08.25.08 / 11am

     I HATE LOTUS NOTES! I HATE LOTUS NOTES! I HATE LOTUS NOTES!

     slowest app on my pc
     the archive is the dumbest
     the search never finds anything useful or what i’m looking for
     it should just be discontinued and trashed as it is the worst software I have ever laid my hands on
119. Eric 08.26.08 / 7am

     Lotus Notes sucks. Purely, Simply, it is way behind its competition.

     “Lotus Notes is not email. It’s also email. Lotus Notes is much more - its a collaboration client. Those of you (guess most of you are teenagers) who use chat, web conferences, unified communication, databases, search, browsers, applications, sharing, finding, building professional networks, will understand what Notes is about. Notes is a tool for professionals - not for kids who like to chat, surf and have fun. It’s a work tool. That’s why 145 million people use it every day at work. Believe it or not!

     Get the latest version, connect it to a Domino server, connect to others on that server, use it, administrate it and use all the functionalities - and you’ll understand what it is all about.

     Get out of your blindfold folks! Open your eyes to the world and try something new. You might learn something!”

     Sure Lotus Notes tries to do a whole slew of things. It just sucks at most of them. It can’t handle single instancing anyway near as well as Exchange can, this means more money for disk storage. The user interface for the new version is much better than it has been; it is almost as good as Outlook 98….

     I totally understand what Notes is about. Its about spending a ton of money with IBM because you don’t want to change, can’t change, are too stupid to change or just plain want to run a piece of crap because you are a masochist.

     This is why several companies are making tons of money replacing Lotus Notes and IBM is loosing market share. So keep digging in a defending the platform. It is going to die eventually and you will be left with a skill set that is useless. You need to start learning other platforms and then, maybe, just maybe, you will begin to see why the rest of the world has realized that Notes sucks.
120. Gregory Gartland 08.27.08 / 6am

     I am a certified Lotus end user trainer and the frustrations I see here are the frustrations I see all the time from untrained users. Whenever corporate gets the idea to change anything, users balk. Then when corporate puts no time or money into training, users balk even more.

     During training, I get a lot of “My Outlook does this, does Lotus?” All it takes is a few clicks to help them find where the needed functionality exists and they are fine. There are very few things that Outlook does that Notes does not.

     BUT, there are a whole bunch of things Notes does that Outlook does not. The problem is, everyone is so ingrained as to the “Microsoft” way, that when they see an interface that’s different, it confuses them.

     As for client speed, if you load Lotus 8.0.1 and use the light client, it is faster and lighter than Outlook by far.

     I just don’t get all the hate. If your corporation is still on Lotus 5 or 6, then ask them to upgrade to the faster 7 or 8 clients.

     JUST BECAUSE IBM does not mandate “rip and replace” like Microsoft, doesn’t mean they’re bad. IBM allows old clients to work with new servers. While this is great for admins, it sucks for the users because most admins then have no reason to go around and update the clients.
121. Angela 09.03.08 / 2pm

     I am not a huge fan of Lotus; I frankly prefer yahoo or gmail. I found this site because I use the reminder function of Lotus Notes a lot, then suddenly they will stop working. They still appear on my calendar, but they don’t remind…very frustrating. However, I use Outlook at home, it is an old version because it is for my home business, and I’m cheap (I’m a bookkeeper, and I don’t need anything fancy).

     I get very frustrated with OutLook too. I file my emails in a logical fashion, but 1) I discovered it was “auto” archiving all my old sent stuff, but that I have to have a special piece of software installed to “unarchive” it again! When a client wanted to know when I’d sent something, I found NOTHING there!! It seems annoying that it wouldn’t warn you what would happen!

     When I try to search my emails, the search function will only search in a specific file…not everything. I don’t have a “view all” function (my favorite thing in Notes and Gmail).

     In Lotus I have to use the calendar function to set up emails to send at some point in the future (and they all arrive saying “Alarm” in the subject line), half the time these stop working. In OutLook I can set up the emails with a future date, but half the time they aren’t sent unless I go back into them (for some goofy reason). I end up with the same problem in both systems, so even the “interface” to help me use OutLook with my LotusNotes is no help.

     I am an Accounting Information Systems student, and I have worked with SAP, Great Plains, PeopleSoft and QuickBooks. Most pieces of software have their stupid issues (most accounting software doesn’t seem to understand many accounting rules…in Great Plains I can void a check that has been cashed….but I cannot change a document number that has been entered incorrectly).

     So be grateful for the things that work, maybe someday they will pool all the right things about every piece software and make it work!

     My company is even cheaper than I am, so I know all our versions are old. In fact, oddly enough, because I’ve been here seven years, when I look at email files that I’ve had from older versions…they still look like the old version…My menu bars suddenly change colors, it was disconcerting the first time it happened!

     In addition, the “Help” function in Lotus is pointless. I needed to set up multiple signatures because I send emails as two different companies, and even our technical guys had no idea what I was trying to do….thank goodness for Google! However, I did figure it out, something I haven’t been able to figure out in OutLook (although I haven’t tried as hard either).
122. Russ 09.04.08 / 10am

     I have been a Notes Admin for 8 years and a Notes Developer for 1. My (new) company uses Lotus for Project and Contract Management and I have to say that it is the WORST platform for such a thing EVAR. In my prior company, no one except the owner like Notes e-mail and even HE used Outlook for the calendar. Truthfully, I can use the software and don’t find it that horrible. But the replication thing fixes a problem that technology solved 8 years ago by making internet available EVERYWHERE. It’s just a bloated obsolete, non-relational (don’t get me started!!) piece of crap. IBM isn’t leading with anything anymore. Do I switch jobs now? What do I do . . .
123. cheapfame 09.05.08 / 8am

     the last 2 jobs ive had both use lotus notes.
     god.
     i cannot even begin to explain how much i hate this stupid application.
     its ugly, cumbersomb, lame, and generally retarded.
     I hate it i hate it i hate it.
     AND
     I’m pretty sure i know why they use it.
     because it is able to do lots of shit functions from the same sh1tty idiotic database, which has been moronicly set up.
     why the hell cant these idiots understand the concept of intranet and storing docs / forms on there.

     next job i’m going to actively seek out a non lotus notes using company.

     you may think I’m being petty, but i hate this application so much,

     its too retarded for words.
124. Scott Noebel 09.05.08 / 3pm

     In response to Greg Gartland - I’ve administered Domino Servers from v3-v8. Oh, and clients too. I am educated. I am certified too. What ever that’s worth these days. I attend LSphere and I attend the Notes Admin Conf on Boston. With that said, I can’t believe you told the users to install the Basic version of Notes 8 because it was by far faster than Outlook. That comment alone only proved to me that what you really are saying is this “If you load the Standard version of Notes 801, hold on because you’re in for a long ride. Its new, its slower than slow. Its full of all sorts of new features but, you shouldn’t use them, instead use the Basic “Light” version of Notes because it’s quicker”. IBM’s quality control team has gotten a lot worse. They are releasing garbage, one point release at a time. Hell, just read this IBM tech note 1317775. It’s hilarious. How the heck does this software pass quality control….Mind Numbing.
125. Bob 09.05.08 / 11pm

     I have an old nsf file that contains old emails etc that I need to access. For all the people who hate Lotus Notes is there anyone out there with a licenced copy of Lotus Notes Client R5 or later who would like nothing better than to off-load it? My intention is to extract the files and put them into a slightly less painful package (MS Outlook). Any assistance would be appreciated.
126. Matt 09.06.08 / 12pm

     People can’t have been in the industry long if they don’t know how IBM operate.

     They care not for hardware or software quality; their modus operandi has always been to simply BRIBE purchasing officers. How else could you move such crappy product? How else could OS/360 have ever become a reality? Those who write the cheques are the people so “keen” on IBM. For them, they are truly great products! The “fringe” benefits terrific…

     And let’s face it, as operating platforms go, Windows is a profoundly shit-house one to have to develop for. A number of problems alluded to are more properly Windows bugs. Nothing above is as crappy as, say, Windows in-ability to paint consistently, frequently leaving large areas of corrupted screen for extended periods of time. How un-acceptable is that?
127. Matt 09.06.08 / 12pm

     Buying anything American doesn’t make much sense.

     Hardly anyone has bought an american car since the 60’s.

     No-one in their right mind would buy american consumer electronics. Not since the 60’s. So why buy their crappy computers?

     Sit back and wait until the Jap’s move in; then we’ll see a decent “windows”. Until then, american computer technology remains a lot more expensive and painful, and harmful to one’s country’s national accounts, than simply banging your head against a wall. I’m out of the industry. Be a darl, and let me know when the Jap’s have taken over. It may be worth re-visiting.
128. Spafil 09.10.08 / 11pm

     Lotus Notes…. what a sweet rollercoaster ride it is…
     Roll out, roll back, roll out, roll back…

     Anyone for a ritual pyre outside IBM HQ?
129. mikael 09.11.08 / 1am

     Brrrrr …. reading this website! I’m scared …….. in 3 months we’ll shift to Lotus Notes!
     Are there any pills I can take to take away the pain until then? After the change I will most probably be lost anyway…. Lost in Notes! ~:o|
130. Granda 09.11.08 / 5am

     I’ve been managing Lotus Notes for the last 3 years and can honestly say it really is a piece of junk. Don’t tell me I don’t know what I’m talking about; I’ve been in IT for 20 years. I run MS networks, IBM System i (AS400), Linux, Program RPG, Delphi, Web Development, develop Notes databases and use Notes as email client. I don’t understand how any project manager could let any Notes CDs into production….it’s like working with a perpetual beta version.

     I know some of you guys are probably excellent Notes developers and for that I hope I cause no offence….but, honestly, you’ve got to agree, that irrespective of its good points (and there are some), and even after accounting for poor administrators and developers of Notes applications, it is a veritable midden of software.
131. Gregory Gartland 09.11.08 / 10am

     To Scott Noebel, I understand what you’re saying, and I too am not real happy about the “heaviness” of the new Notes 8.x client. But IBM is working on the footprint and 8.0.2 is a little lighter. It’s the Eclipse framework that’s causing all the issues.

     On the other hand, IBM is great at allowing alternatives. Instead of getting one package that can only run one way, or run under one server, they give you multiple clients that can run on multiple OS’ with multiple versions coexisting.

     I also think it’s awesome that IBM is leading the way to giving people alternatives to Microsoft bloat. Now you can create a completely viable office computer in Linux with Lotus Notes, Lotus Symphony and Firefox. Not to mention other 3rd party linux-based apps for 5250 emulating, etc.

     IBM may not have it perfectly right, but I sure do like the way they’re going.
132. Johnny Kruuse 09.17.08 / 3am

     Very sorry to hear you think so bad about Lotus Notes - I guess there are some people that hate Notes, and then there are people like me, that agressively hate MS Outlook - I have had the unfortunate experience of using this piece of crap for almost 1 year now - my god I definitely thought Outlook would be better or at least just as good as Notes but I was sadly mistaken, thank you god for my boss have agreed to migrate away from exchange/outlook to notes/domino I cant wait !!
133. DpM 09.22.08 / 3am

     I use Notes; I have no choice and have had no choice since 1999. It has some real annoyances for me and some things that I would describe as ‘quirks’… when it does things that no other program does. Some things have already been mentioned here, but my thoughts (I’m working with a 7 client) are around:

     1) You need to know the CTRL-Break thing, otherwise you’re not going to be a happy-puppy a lot of the time - this is useful for when it tries to do a background action when you didn’t expect it to, or when the search dialogue seems to hang - maybe it has, maybe it hasn’t.

     2) Refresh… F9. I use that a lot so I’ve trained myself, but I so often found myself logging out of Notes with F5.

     3) Changing menu options… I like my options to remain where they were last time I looked for them. I often get a tad frustrated when the Actions menu (mostly it is this) has a different list of items depending on what tab has focus.

     4) Single-threaded processes… Notes is made up of several .exes it seems, all working in [dis]harmony. I really get frustrated when I CTRL-V (paste) something from a place like a HTML page inside Internet Explorer! Why does this take such a long, long time for me? I have got into the habit of pasting stuff into TextPad and then pasting plain text into Notes. So that means, I always have TextPad open.

     5) The replication progress bar. Oh, how awful is that? I do guess it’s a lot better than version 5 or 4, but the progress bar and the %age indicators are still not accurate by any means. Often, they just sit there - saying it is 63% complete for minutes on end (granted, someone has sent something big through) before jumpting to 100%.

     6) The crashes. Oh, the crashes. Where did that crazy Lotus-only windowing system come from? The one that has a black border and a red background (I think)?

     7) The way that, without too much effort, you can really end up screwing up your email if you are using bullets or numbered bullets along with indent and outdent paragraph - especially if close to your footer.

     But also… there’s the little things that I love. The ability to write my own litte agents that do wonderful things… like highlight an incoming email that has a Read Receipt attached to it and flag it in my InBox with a “No Entry” icon, number 92 I believe. The ability to “unlock” emails that have “prevent forwarding” placed on them. Other little things like the Permanent Pen (I don’t know if other clients have this).

     I think I have suffered with Lotus Notes, but I give it some leeway, because I know it is not a natural email client. I realise I am not using it as it was always intended.
134. Tim C 10.01.08 / 4am

     Surely, all it needs is someone who’s worked in an office to have some input to the interface design to make it more intuitive. Example: I’m looking for an email from Fred Smith that isn’t in the correct folder. My seach in All Documents for Fred Smith reveals 37 emails from him. I scan through and find the email I’m looking for; great … but Lotus Notes cannot tell me which folder it’s in. Never mind, I’ve found it so I can drag it across into the correct folder - one OH-NO-SECOND later realise i’ve dragged ALL the Fred Smith emails into that folder - they were all ticked from the search, weren’t they? Now ALL of Fred Smith’s emails are in this folder, and I’ve no way of telling where they came from! This is NOT intuitive!! This is not good software design; it’s not even modern software design, and I expect something better from an application used all over the world. It’s all these ‘little’ things isn’t it? Why is it in some views I can use the mousewheel to scroll through, others i can’t? If I filter a list, it shows the ticked items. I may want to do several operations with that list, but if I un-tick an item, it disappears! WHY???!?!?!? Here’s one I found yesteday: I want to make some copies of emails for a specific task. Right click give me copy and paste options - great. I’ll put the copies in a new folder - fine! I find the first email I want a copy of, right click copy - wonderful!! I open the new folder - right click (to paste) …. excuse me, right click… there are no memos in the new folder yet so I don’t get the right-click menu!!!! I go through the drop downs to copy and paste. I find my second email, right click copy, into the new folder - theres a memo there now so I have the right click (paste) again!! THIS IS N O T INTUITIVE!!!
135. Round In Circles 10.08.08 / 9pm

     I can’t believe my luck!
     I have just left one company, where we were using Lotus Notes 6.5, yet were in the process of migrating to Outlook 2007.

     Now I’m at my new job and they use Notes 8, it looks slightly prettier than 6.5, it says “Hey, don’t I look pretty, don’t I look more like a real email client” but it’s lying, it’s still awful, I want to die.

     I have a progress bar, it’s been animated for the last two hours and I’m not doing anything!!!
     PROGRESS OF WHAT!?!?!?
136. Round In Circles 10.09.08 / 8pm

     OK, have to release some more anger.

     I’m trying to work out why the Lotus Quickr Connector isn’t working in Lotus Notes. I have installed, uninstalled, reinstalled, uninstalled, reinstalled, uninstalled and again reinstalled the plugin.
     It still is not appearing in my sidebar of notes 8.0.1.

     You would think that the forums on IBM would be of some help, wouldn’t you (no, no you wouldn’t, cos you’re not as naive as me).

     Someone has the bright idea that Hot Fix 5 pack will fix this, do you think I could find Hot Fix 5? Do you think the person saying Hot Fix 5 fixes the problem, would post a LINK to Hot Fix 5? Do you think that IBM would easily, clearly label their upgrade patches? Do you think that when I search their downloads for “hot fix 5″ I would get less than 38,000 results? Do you think that first of all, IBM might actually get a plugin THEY MAKE to install properly and WORK with some other software WHICH THEY ALSO MAKE?

     If you have answered yes to ANY of these questions, please die or resign from IBM.
137. Stupid is what stupid does 10.18.08 / 1pm

     Lotus Notes is built on pile of garbage and can’t be fixed. For the sake of humanity IBM should stop developing this crap.
138. hateLN 10.29.08 / 10pm

     If you want email only, NEVER implement Lotus notes. if you want “collaboration software” which doesn’t supply built in version control, NEVER implement Lotus Notes. If you want bloated software that crashes all the time, spontaneously commits suicide for no apparent reason, takes longer than a day to set up your options and even then you cant’ find out stuff because it’s completely unintuitive, then LN8 is for you.

     On the other hand if you enjoy ugly icons, endless toolbars, slow email and other useless features, hey then have i got something for you…
139. Michael 10.31.08 / 4am

     The Notes client should be better than it is. IBM are making it better now but to me it seems to be too little too late. I am a Lotus Notes/Domino Administrator. I have enjoyed working with the product. You can do a lot with it. It has 1000 times more functionality than Outlook. However the client is rubbish. So people hate it. IBM try to make it do too much. They get caught up in all the new technologies, open source, etc and forget about the core user. Fix the client first! It’s crazy. Looking at jobs, there are far more Lotus to Exchange/Outlook/Sharepoint migrations than Lotus upgrades. It’s a shame as Lotus has such great potential. But IBM has killed a great product. They offer poor support also. Nothing is clear. Their licensing model is confusing. By the looks of things I will have to change into a different technology as there are fewer and fewer Notes jobs as companies move to MS. My last job was supporting Outlook. The company used this Enterprise Vault software and it was rubbish, it just failed all the time. Outlook crashes also. It’s slow and clunky. So with such poor competition, Lotus is doing pretty bad to still be losing customers. Lift your freaking game IBM!!
140. Michael 10.31.08 / 4am

     ps. to the earlier user who wrote:
     “Anyone know why Notes gets into a mode where, when composing a “memo”, the up/down arrow keys do nothing and the left/right arrow keys shift the text left and right on the screen? With the right arrow, you can even shift it over so that the first 8 or 10 columns are hidden! Nice feature!”

     This is because you have the scroll lock key on. Unclick it and you’ll be back to normal.
141. Z.M. 10.31.08 / 8am

     My company was forced to migrate from Outllook to Notes ………

     Y es una grandísima MIERDA!!!!

     Simply …….. What a huge SHIT !!!!!!!!!!
142. JLo 11.03.08 / 1am

     Ahh..i never realised that there’s such website..I can now share my pain too.
143. James Adams 11.05.08 / 8am

     Awful Awful Awful. I don’t even know where to begin. I am a user of Outlook for the past 11 1/2 years. Outlook isn’t perfect but it gets far more things right than LN.

     I recently changed jobs, Italian company, somebody over there loves LN.
144. Alan 11.06.08 / 2am

     Lotus Notes is one of the worst pieces of software ever. It is utterly user-unfriendly; the designers’ remit must have been ‘annoy as many office workers as possible’.

     But if there’s one thing more annoying than Notes, it’s people saying “Ah, well, Lotus Notes was never meant to be just an email program! If you use for what it was designed for – syncing a back-end client-side multiplex dynamo server with an MS Sharepoint flexi-platform database (whatever the hell that means) – you’ll see how great it is!”

     Because they are perfectly illustrating the problem. It’s great for the people behind the scenes, who aren’t the ones who have to use it for email ONLY 8 hours a day.

     And we don’t decide to use it for email. It’s not up to us! It’s got nothing to do with us, the users! If it was, we’d decide to use Outlook.
145. Alan 11.06.08 / 2am

     Oh, and just to add, the dash key on a standard keyboard makes this weird little symbol “-” which is a hyphen, not a dash. If you want to get an en dash “–” you have to press ALT+0150.

     For an em-dash, “—”, it’s ALT+ 0151.

     But guess what? In Lotus Notes, they’re the other way round!
146. Hmm.. Somebody 11.06.08 / 9am

     Does ANYTHING, really, anything, SUCK more than Notes!?!?!?!?

     DIE Lotus Notes DIE!
147. John Blanket